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gear 3 n luffys too big to for her lol
also im not usre but isn't her power kinda useless on the muscly like usless since she isn't physically strong enough to put the hurt on them thats why a Zoro's zombie broke free of her clutch
But there are ways in which you can make people's joints to work against them. I think she is able to do it, based on what I've seen so far. One example would be Pell. He couldn't make use of his strenght in the situation she put him in, and then fainted after being unable to breath for a while. I thought she broke his neck when I saw it the first time.
well it might be diffrent for zombies... but remember Franky? every man has a weak spot *d'oh*
ok so I have now read this topic and found that very few people have introduced new information and instead make claims that have been refuted many times so here is my opinion
If luffy and zoro fought, right now at this point in the story plot, to the death luffy would win because by his own admission zoro any ambition he has would be worthless if he can't protect his own captain
so although i have no idea who is stronger because they have not fought recently and they don't have any recent fights against common opponents that gives one a clear strength advantage over the other, zoro would be unable to kill his captain and luffy has shown time and time again that he doesn't ever quit in a fight, so luffy would come out victorious simply because zoro wouldn't be able to kill him.
Zoro is an idiot and the weird book......well......too.
@RAZH im with you and support you.
If Oda says they are equal then he has to show it better and more because right now it seems like Luffy is stronger.
Maybe Oda says they are equal but where is it shown??? Zoro has a very great stamina and maybe even greater stamina, i have to admit it but thats all for now.....im not convinced that Zoro has such a battle force like Luffy.
There are aguments with the speed and stuff and bla bla bla, but just take a look at RAZHs posts he exlpained and destroyed them.( have to say i didnt read it all)
Without a gear they are almost equal but with gear......man no chance for Zoro.
If they would be emotionless Luffy would win, but they have emotions and like g4291991 it is a very big part in their fight too. im in a hurry cant write anymore bye
Last edited by Superman; December 15, 2008 at 03:24 PM.
luffys a d. there you go! haah doesnt makes sense. but we all saw that d. all have extreme will power. and im pretty sure that luffy can beat mr1 with his gigant axe. like ok he can use swords, but wat do u thinks gonna happen? hes gonna cut through his foot? hell no! when luffy used gigant gear against lucci, he went all the way through his tekai, and tekai is as strong, or probably stronger than steel in luccis case. like his gigant gear isnt just a balloon, its actually fkin hard, like harder than steel, especially with all the power and speed going at it it makes it even harder (a little collision and energy physics here would prove it). and ok zoro can dodger a bullet, but i doubt he could keep up to luffys gear 2. plus luffy lets say theyre both equal, well ok zoros smart, but from memory zoro only fought wiht pure strength to fight his enemy, while luffy actually used his brains to defeat enemys. and if you that guy dont kno his name is so sure that zoro would defeat him just cause he can cut through rubber, well ok luffys weakness is getting cut. but just check enel vs luffy, luffy was enels weakness, and in that arc you could see that enel couldve have easily defeated luffy without using lightning. so in conclusion for that, well even if luffys weakness is zoros swords, luffy can still use his brains and beat zoro somehow, wich i think is more logic. plus luffys a d, he has stronger superhuman strength than zoro. its a fact, it doesnt say it anywhere but its obvious. like without swords zoro would be dead, although he can still manage without them, but luffy without his fruit, would still be a big threat.
Putting Daz Bones vs. Luffy as a comparison was a complete fail.
I could just as well say that Zoro couldn't even touch Enel, but Luffy has beat the shit out of him.
superman im not gonna comment to u lol i still remember the old arguements lol
hey if i remember correctly razh that was an arguement saying at that time luffy wouldn't have been able to beat mr 1
@neomaster I completely agree with you my point was simply that right now zoro wouldn't be able to beat Luffy in a fight because he has completely invested himself in Luffy's cause. Let me rephrase Zoro supports Luffy because he sees that by playing second fiddle to Luffy that is the way to accomplish his dreams, he realizes that the only way to accomplish his dream is to support Luffy, so in fight Luffy would win simply because it would be detrimental to Zoro's dream to win the fight and that it would simply propel Luffy closer to his goal to win. So basically Zoro has more to gain by losing against Luffy (his dream is to be the strongest swordsman so he suffers no real set back by losing to Luffy a nonsword user.)
Last edited by Superman; December 15, 2008 at 04:57 PM.
She could trow him in Water and the balls thing is an OHKO.Quote:
Plus she could use sharp objects and a lot of other things like trapping his movements and stuff...
Zoro, Robin, Franky and Sanji wouldn't be scared.Quote:
OP is a manga about true friendship.
I brought that argument cuz people were saying Luffy beated stronger opponents that Zoro while it's obvious that Luffy is choosing his adversaries and that Zoro always agrees(Luffy's the Captain).
I suppose Zoro's katanas don't have a flat edge. I suppose they are sharp from all 4sides of the blade. They are unlike all other katana.
I'm really tempted to post a picture of a katana so you can see what they look like.
Luffy's sandals blocked the flat side of katanas. Geez...
There's 2 could. Luffy is not so stupid to get pawned with something pitifull like that.Quote:
Oh, and his balls are nothing like Franky's. He is made of rubber, remember? Se can squeeze them all day if she wants. Certainly won't be enough to stop him.
And trap his movements? Didn't you ever see him do ally robo?
And people are sometimes forgetting that Robin feels pain of her duplicate arms. And she needs a lot of concentration to maintain them.
Do I need to keep going?
Well, just in case. Luffy bites her hand or Luffy catches her hand and starts crushing it.
Didn't mean it that way. I meant it would be something they wouldn't want to experience again. Something like fighting Shadow Asgard Moria.Quote:
Last edited by Razh; December 16, 2008 at 05:42 AM.
If he can't come near her it has no point.Quote:
And I am sure Luffy will be hurt if she squeezes his balls hard enough.
Doesn't Luffy concentrate to fight?Quote:
And of course, she will just watch and let him do his thing.Quote:
I don't think they like to fight against each other.Quote:
Yeah, sure. You're right. Zoro displays his serious face, than says that he needs to be serious and implies that Luffy could die, and then attacks with a KILLING BLOW, and decides to spare the sandal at the last moment...
BTW, Luffy also caught his hands.
Why wouldn't he be able to come near her? Or why would a man who can stretch his arms need to come near her? She can't really hurt him seriously.Quote:
And he's all stretchy and flexible.
Robin can't sustain additional limbs if she feels pain.Quote:
I don't suppose you're claiming that Luffy needs to concentrate to be able to stretch his hand or legs? What have you been reading?
They don't have the same type of paramecia. Luffy is constantly rubber.
I never saw anyone using smilies that badly.Quote:
How can she stop him from hurting her beside releasing him?
Maybe break one or two of his rubber bones?
And of course, Luffy will just watch and let Robin's arms get all over him.
Give the guy a little more credit.