In the grand scheme of things Rimuto was just a figurehead. All the other men seem to have escaped, to the mainland most likely.
This is the part I don't think Miria has considered. Depending on whatever answer the rest of the Org has, she could have saved or damned her companions.
These guys have so far managed to stalemate the other side (the ones using the Dragons' Descendants) for something like 100 years.
I find it difficult to believe (though it's still possible) that they have been doing that through sheer fielding of far superior numbers for that long (assuming the DDs are indeed very powerful, and requiring a huge number of men to be sacrificed to bring one down).
An average AB could mow through an army (with no gunpowder capability, assuming that would work); if the DDs are stronger than that I'm interested in seeing how the Org's side has managed to keep them off.
Of course there are other factors such as the DDs being too few to do any significant and lasting damage, but that doesn't seem to be the case. In fact Rimuto talks about them (his side) being desperate to fill the gap.
The question is, can the Org spare the manpower necessary to get rid off forty-odd warriors? Not sure what would happen to the trainees, but I can see the Org sparing them for some nefarious ends.
thread about Mainland and while some points are far fetched ( liek the one where I think that they are technologically advanced ) I think there is one where I am correct - alliances.
Here is the quote itself:
From this and the fact that Organization was able to hold off for 100 years + DoD's I can only say one thing - they probably have big military resources, other side too. So I think it will not be problem for Mainland force to muster a sizable task force from their reserves and send it to contain the situation. And I am sure that they would have some specialist troops beside ordinary soldiers to counter tougher enemies like Claymores or even an Awakened.Originally Posted by Brother Coa
Yagi please, read this and provide....
Either they have a superior army force at their expenses,
or they have some sort of insanely OP weapon like atomic bombs.
Have they developed such a technology yet, you think?
My guess is that they have a facility on the mainland where they still produce the flawed awakened and send them against the dragons as suicide troops. All it takes is to sacrifice one person to fight off a dragon.
Until they can get the research program to work there is and until then there is all about suicide troops.
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Something else about Priscilla and 'hate'. When I use 'hate' here, I mean whatever Yagi intends it to mean, and whatever consequences it can be said to have.
Is it appropriate to draw a connection between what Daae says about Prissy's hate (specifically how her 'hate' produces the quality of creation of matter) and the qualitative potential of youki?
It seems that it was Priss's youki energy which has the ability to 'hold off' contamination by the destroyer, and Priss either knows it or intuitively understands it, because she used it to save Raki's life.
Daae seems to have understood this 'creation' aspect of Priss's youki, because he applied it to resurrect the 3 dead no.1's.
What this seems to indicate in Priss's case is that youki is malleable and shapes itself around the personality of the user. For Priss, her hate results in an application that, through youki, resists youma, and, for reasons possibly not clarified yet, can 'create'.
It seems there is a direct correlation between what the quality of the 'hate' is and what attributes youki can manifest, almost like youki is a medium for whatever the user's personality wills to do with it.
The distinction between offensive and defensive types also supports this analysis, because the body of a claymore builds itself around the personality of the claymore.
So how many applications are there for youki exactly? And how unusual or radical could those applications get?
For now they are not entirely equal, because one side has DoD's and the other one way ticket monster.
Actually I can because the official hisdtory says so: "The Hundred Years' War was a series of conflicts waged from 1337 to 1453 between the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of France for control of the French throne." - Wikipedia.Quote:
At least I agree here with you, it seems that whoever wins this war will have complete dominance over the Mainland. Or so it seems...Quote:
I just hope they actually bother get "Claymore" over with first before they start whatever the Mainland/Avatar/Star Wars thing that they want to eventually get to.
Just resolve the plots that people have waited many years to complete would be a nice pleasantry. I mean damn the story has already suffered enough.
"Hundred Years' War" isn't as simple as controlling the French throne as would -Wikepedia try to say. One important thing your overlooking at it lasted "100" years of conflict because both side are almost equal in terms of war potential. If it isn't it could have finished within a year or two. And if I remember correctly, after the sea battle "Edward" I think loose fund that the campaign was being halt for a time.
The war on mainland lasted for 100 years because both side are as almost equal on both man power and resources. However let us say that the other side got some upper hand but it doesn't give then automatic victory. If it does the war should be over. Speaking of which I remember Gundam's plot between Coordinator and Naturals. Of course the Coordinator got the upper hand but it doesn't give them sure victory. It is somehow similar to that. You shouldn't say they have super power ally. WAR don't work like that. And now that it boiled down to 2 super nations there are much more complicated thing in there that you should consider. Speaking of witch patch 5.3 in WoW the troll rebellion is a good example. Vol'jin said he need tauren power but tauren chieftain said yes but he still need to ensure the safety of his people. He also suggested that he need other power than horde to storm ogrimmar. complexity.
I honestly think Priscilla uses something else besides Yoki when she fights, something else as an emergency resource, like this "hatred" that keeps coming up.
Once again, I'll restate what I found most interesting about her:
Whenever Priscilla is losing and getting severely damaged, she immediately has a memory or flashback of her past childhood and instantaneously becomes much more stronger and gains advantage/or completely destroys her opponent.
As with Priscilla's Yoki, she herself stated that her Yoki was much "stronger" than that of the Destroyers' parasitic rods.
But the parasitic rods were able to take over Beth in her human form.
Yet Dauph was able to resist the rods for a bit before intentionally allowing them to take over him.
So somehow Priscilla's Yoki (or perhaps her something to do with her instantaneous regenerative qualities?) simply negated the infectious effect of the rods.
And what exactly does "stronger" in that context mean? Purer? Of better quality? Of higher degree? Or of more quantity?
On my view, 'hate' in the context of Priss means:
1) a 'tap' like a kitchen sink tap that is informed by her memories. her memories are the source of hate that opens the tap completely. Another analogy for 'tap' is a volcano that can erupt (the example that Daae gives). I think her hate is the medium for how much youki she outputs. It's like gasoline to a fire, except she has an unlimited supply. When she is threatened (or when she wants to trigger it) its either a biological process that brings up her memories or her psychological makeup that does it.
2) the quality of her youki, and the youki of other claymores, and hence their abilities (how they can apply their youki) is built over their personalities. So I'm saying that the specific 'strength' that you identified, in terms of quality (and by quality I mean what properties the youki can have, and consequently what the user can do with it) has to do with what 'emotions' (for lack of a better word) and experiences a claymore has had in their lives. Priss's youki, or her youki in addition to the way she uses it, has the quality (the property) of being able to resist or overcome infection, and 'resurrect' dead claymores (in a certain way), and this is directly related to how her hatred was produced from her experiences as a human and claymore.
The fact that beth and dauf have differing degrees of resistance could be due to the way their personalities influenced their youki and how they apply it. it wouldn't have to be in the same sense as Priss either.
I think that Yagi will show us why Priss's 'hatred' enables her to do what she does, and why she is able to create and resist infection, and assimilate other matter. I think he started this with her flashback, and having Daae give us hints about it, so far. Yagi might say something like because of her experiences with her father, Priss's hatred for youma is so great that it acts like infinite fuel, is of such density or strength that it resists or overcomes infection, and (perhaps) her hatred toward youma acts as the outward manifestation of self-preservation instinct, which allows her to instantaneously regenerate.
In general, I think youki, claymorization and awakened-fication are thematically about amplifying the personality traits of the characters, in a similar sense to how an awakened being's physical form might say something about that person.
The above is subject to the qualification that DoD flesh might be determinant of some of these things as well (like it has its own DNA).
Daae only said that he saw a relationship between those claymores who hated yoma and an increase in strength. I think that means that hate is not the only 'emotion' that can influence the quality of youki energy or how a user applies it.
This is all basically just speculation though
So Organization Mainland masters can send some of those to contain situation on Claymore island.
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Or Yagi could just say that half-awakening has some kind of super-power and Clare can kill Priscilla in a heartbeat. But that would be a cheap way in finishing it, at least in my opinion.