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I personally find it most interesting now, because minor conflict on some random continent may now decide the fate of entire world and in middle of all that stand Clare and Priscilla. And if Yagi somehow move their conflict from CLaymore continent to Mainland it would be epic.
Not having impact on her life at all? I don't think so...Quote:
Organization created Teresa to which she bounded and as a result became Claymore itself after Teresa died.
Yoma that killed her family and who kept her with her and used her in various ways was created by Organization.
That entire continent is one big Organization top secret war project.
After Teresa's death Claymore lived under the Organization care, and after she went on a run they found her very shortly and threaten to kill her if she does not comply.
She was under their rule until she became Ghost, and even then she had to help in their annihilation to be free and finally able to battle Priscilla.
So the big bad Org. really have great impact on her life and she was concern about them a LOT, especially regarding the safety of her friends and Raki.
Expect that we have learned what was the purpose of Claymores and what are Yoma actually. We also learned about a new species different from Humanity and their characteristics.Quote:
And what's giving them their power is actually a combination of those two flesh turned into a yoma and then that yoma flesh used to create them. They can still learn new abilities, Clare learned that she has Repeals technic now that she is out of blub.Quote:
You only noticed this now? He was caretaker of Clare, in fact he was the one to whom Clare approached and asked to became a Claymore.Quote:
He was the one who introduced her to Miria, Helen and Deneve, the one who found her later and told her about Raki and where she should go.
The one who is spy for the other side of Mainland war and the one who always kept a close watch to Daae and his experiments.
He was the one who stayed close friend to Raphaela and the one who recruit her later for the Organization.
He was the one who noticed the H/A experiment was a success and was keeping it secret from Organization.
He was also the one who kept their reappearance after 7 years a secret until Miria showed up in their HQ.
He is beside CLare the most important character, the one who works through shadows and help main protagonist. ANd you noticed this only now?
I have faith that he will introduce many new things until he finished manga one day. Sure he left some plot holes, but because manga is so slow ( 1 per month ) we can only try to find logic before he explained that to us in some future releases. You cannot judge the show until you see final episode and when will we see final episode of Claymore is still not sure at all.Quote:
You make some very good points about the manga revolving around a simple plot then expanding.Quote:
I agree in the bigger plot being the main focus of the story and it having to eventually get resolved.
But really, the last thing that should happen should be the ulterior part of the story, which is Clare's past.
Why else would we spend so much of the book on Teresa, flashbacks, and all that?
Shouldn't we have had a flashback on the Mainland much earlier into the story?
Also, the above quote is from you.
The paragraph you were referring to...it isn't about the Organization.
It was about the Mainland not mattering at all in Clare's story lol; of course the Organization had a huge impact.
With Rubel, I had some clear idea that he was an important feature of the story; he was the one who helped Clare in becoming a Claymore; without him, Clare would've just wandered the world and might have actually died, or ended up in worse situations. (Those medieval towns have a lot of bandits, kidnappers, and rapists.)
But it seems like with Rubel coming in with his Half-Awakened theory and Yagi REALLY emphasizing the importance of it, Rubel might have had an even more important role than I thought.
Originally I thought Rubel was important because of his role in the beginning, but he now seems to also have a key role in the ending of the manga and how it will ultimately get resolved.
(To be honest, I thought he would have actually died off by now, considering he openly announced that he was a traitor. Dang, I seriously thought he was going to die in that Claymore Rebellion...except he took off with Dae on some horses. Speaking of horses, where those "dark horses?")
As for Yagi, I could almost describe him in the way that I would describe American authors.
When they take too long to release a next book/sequel, some of the endings and twists end up being predicted beforehand by the forums and then the author has to go and revise their story so it doesn't seem like they're copying.
Except that Yagi doesn't read the MangaHelpers forums...right?
Last edited by Whirlzap; April 22, 2013 at 06:41 PM.
At the end of this battle Organization Mainland troops attack and they somehow sedate Priscilla and sail her to Mainland to fight for their side, Clare and the others flee before overwhelming enemy. With Rubel's help they go to Mainland too and join the other side. In the last decisive battle of the war Clare and Priscilla will be fighting each other and whoever wins in that fight determines the fate of the entire world.
That's how every story goes, from low beginning to the epic end where the fate of worlds is in question.
And the Organization came from the Mainland, if Mainland never existed there would be no Yoma and no Claymores and CLare would have normal human life.Quote:
So yeah, Mainland have not only big impact on her but on the entire continent as well.
(To be honest, I thought he would have actually died off by now, considering he openly announced that he was a traitor. Dang, I seriously thought he was going to die in that Claymore Rebellion...except he took off with Dae on some horses. Speaking of horses, where those "dark horses?")Quote:
I agree with you, Rubel is one epi character. A puppet master, able to twist the will of everyone around him into doing his bidding.
I am sure he will survive until the very end.
I agree, when Yagi was originally written Claymore in 2001 I doubt he had everything that he has written so far into consideration. As some members have noticed he is making things up as he goes and correcting afterwards if needed ( like the past volume with re-done few pages ).Quote:
I am sure he would be very happy to read yours or Goral comments thenQuote:
Granted that the Priss issue is no longer just about Clare, it includes all the ghosts and those on their side (and Clare acknowledges this), but everyone knows that it will come down to Clare v. Priss at the end, and I don't really want anything interfering with or imposing on those moments, since the entire manga has been building up to it, and I hope that with close attention to the personal dynamic between Priss, Teresa, Clare and those whose hopes Clare carries, the story will generate something just as epic/colossal in scope and impact as if the whole world was on the line.
That is what I hope to see until the very end. Granted: Clare and Priscilla are still the most important thing in the series. But their personal relationship may be the thing that wraps everything in the end and decide the fate of everyone on the Claymore continent and maybe on the Mainland itself.
BTW ppl, I have nominated Claymore for a couple of categories in the awards.. So let's support Claymore..