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Konomi hasn't forgotten about Kirihara, Hardy. Trust me. If you think of Konomi's favorite characters in tiers, they would go something like this:
Tier 1 (fav)
The other main MSers
This does not mean the amount of screentime will be affected by this, rather this is who Konomi has a soft spot for.
Out of curiosity, why do you place Tachibana there?
Tachibana? He got fodder treatment all PoT, and that even carries on to SPoT. Konomi hate the guy, if anything.
Yes, Momoshiro is another one. He is probably in tier 2.Originally Posted by Hardy
No. Tachibana does not have fodder treatment. Losing a single match does not make anybody fodder. Tachibana and Shiraishi BOTH had the same amount of screentime. One of them won, one of them lost. Losing does not make someone fodder. The mere fact Tachibana got ANY screentime shows Konomi cares about him. Kadowaki is fodder. Remember that time Kadowaki played a highschooler in a match? yeah me neither. You don't waste your time as a mangaka, drawing the fodder. You draw the people you like drawing.Originally Posted by Ken
Last edited by Fayte; March 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM.
Fuji and Kirihara are not treated the same. Its a bit too clear.
Kirihara at the Nationals got Devil Mode. Just an upgrade of Bloodshot Mode. That's all he got. Since Konomi has decided to delete the Snake move he had.
Fuji got Upgrades of the Triple Counter, Fourth Counter, Fifth Counter, Sixth Counter AND Closed Eyes and Cord Ball lol.
How is that the same treatment?
SPoT comes and all Kirihara gets is another Mode lol.
Tachibana at the same place with Tezuka and Atobe?
Was the WoK match(barely even a match, it was a pile of crap with a few frames) not enough evidence to show they are clearly not treated the same?
Tachibana cannot compare to the focus that Tezuka and Atobe have had.
Atobe has appeared in TWO FULL matches so far. More than any other player.
Can't see how Kirihara and Fuji are at the same place, and same with Tachibana and Atobe/Tezuka.
Shiraishi got loads of time and unvelied a golden gauntlet. What did Tachibana do? The guy only said a few words in that quick group of panels that was WoK VS Washio/Suzuki.
If you say the fact Tachibana got any screentime shows Konomi cares about him... Then... doesn't that apply for Shiraishi just as much?
I just wanna see evidence that Konomi likes Tachibana more than Chitose, Shiraishi, Yukimura, Kite and Akutsu right now.
Well, we are talking about somethings that only Konomi knows. There's no way to judge this, really.
To tell the truth, I don't like the idea of this list at all =__= This will be full of feeling, for anyone....
And not too much,
I think Fayte's first three hit the nail on the head. Or rather the list has.
I just disagree strongly with where he placed Kirihara and Tachibana.
I feel Konomi's own list has changed greatly. Look at Kaidoh. I don't miss Kaidoh because I found his tennis EXTREMELY BORING until the Gyro combo moment, but he hasn't done a thing in SPoT yet Konomi was giving him tons of screentime in PoT.
Kirihara (like Fuji) got an upgrade basically every single time he played. Bloodshot mode against Tachibana. Muga against Fuji. Devil mode against Krasuer. Angel mode against HSers. "Sane" Devil mode against HSers. Kirihara evolved twice in a single match against the HSers. I already said, instead of "Techniques," (like Fuji) Kirihara gets auras and modes. I said that both characters demand improvement every match. In that sense, it makes them the same.Originally Posted by Airgrimes
First of all, it's just a fact that singles gets more attention than doubles. The fact that Tachibana's match was doubles by itself automatically puts screentime at a disadvantage. Also, screentime itself is not an "end-all" proof for Konomi liking a character more. Atobe got more screentime than Echizen and Sanada. Does that mean Konomi likes Atobe more? No. It means Konomi is trying to keep his fans from leaving before he shows the stuff he wants to show.Originally Posted by Airgrimes
I said Tachibana had the same amount of screentime as Shiraishi. Meaning, both characters were shown beating HSers at the beginning, and playing at least 1 official match. I wasn't referring to the length of the match, because obviously the Shiraishi/Kirihara match had more overall pages.Originally Posted by Airgrimes
Shiraishi wasn't created until the Nationals. Tachibana was around since pre-kantou. Tachibana had more time to develop. I believe Shiraishi is getting screentime because like Atobe, he has become popular among the fans.Quote:
Being strong does not excuse you from not being fodder. 1st stringer 11-20? Probably strong enough to 6-0 most National high tier in PoT when SPoT first started, outside the few outstanding exception at the top, of course. Still, fodder.
Last edited by -Ken-; March 26, 2013 at 08:06 PM.
Bloodshot mode against Tachibana.
No upgrade against Echizen
Muga against Fuji.
Devil mode against Krauser.
No upgrade against Inui/Kaidoh
No upgrade against Renji
Angel mode against HSers. "Sane" Devil mode against HSers.
So he got his upgrade.... 4/7 match? That is if you want to count his Bloodshot Mode as an upgrade. Otherwise, it's 3/6. The rate is actually hardly impressive.
Fuji upgrade only seriously start when he got more serious about winning. That is, during his Kantou final match. Before then, he's not serious about winning, and there's no opponent that's strong enough to ask that "seriousness" out of him.
You may be able to call them the same, but that if you overlook some points in Kirihara favor. If you overlook a few match, pretty much anyone can be Konomi favorite character. That's clearly a line that's really unclear to draw. Unlike taking out a few match that is in between of Kirihara, Fuji upgrade is a straight line if you start from the national (when Fuji actually start showing his endless evolving plot armor).
Back to the topic. I think that we can't just use manga to rank this. It's dependent on so many things. For example, I remember Konomi once said that he like Tezuka the least because he found him so boring (poor Tezuka ). So, which Tier do you think he should be now? As for Shiraishi, he once joked that Shiraishi is HIM in PoT, that make Shiraishi must got a really high rank in Konomi top fav, right? Konomi takes care of Shiraishi very well, in almost everything, if you see clearly.
I found it really hard and complicated to rank this, really