tobirama attitude is terrible but him as a character , he is awesome . Hashirama is a spur of the moment kind of guy like naruto and the brute force while tobirama is a thinking ahead kind of guy , the brains and hes probably smarter than shikaku/shikamaru , imagine if tobirama had the exact personality as hashirama , konoha probably wouldnt have been as civilized as it is and would have fallen with uchiha and senju fighting for power after hashiramas death while tobirama not being as powerful as his brother , would have been a pushover...
Great chapter! I can't help but feel a bit sorry for Madara and how things turned out, (Yes I'm a Madara fan).
I think im being ostracized from the clan he loved and just wanted to protect above all else made the chalice tip over. Once he realized that not one of his clansmen would listen to him about tobirama, he thought it would be best to create his own world where everyone could be happy together.
Obito went nuts without even being forced. just because he saw his crush getting killed by Kakashi. assuming (what is there to assume anyway) that Kakashi had good reason behind his action, it was even more difficult for him to Kill Rin. yet he managed to overcome his emotion by not turning into evil.
now you can say, Obito want to achieve piece through his process. but that method itself is very wrong. if i say that I will kill every person so that there will be no more war, there will be ultimate peace; how peaceful will it sound? Madara and Obito's idea are similar to that. just because they are screaming peace doesn't mean that they are doing it right.
about sasuke, didn't he almost killed sakura? and without hesitation too.
and about the chapter, seeing all those awesome characters (like Orochimaru, Tobi, Madara etc) getting ruined with nonsense like "I am misunderstood" is painful indeed.
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He needs to be welcomed into the church of Naruto hahahaha
Speaking of truth tough, we all know there is no real democracy in Konoha, the elders and the damyo choose the leader based on popularity and political reasons.
Also, Tobirama is a complete hypocrate to talk about democracy when he handpicked his own successor at the time of his death.
Tobirama's prejudice for the Uchiha and his inherent believe that their "curse" would just bring chaos and destruction ultimately cemented Madara's predictions when two generations later the Uchiha were all but wiped out.
Fact is that there is no way a Uchiha would ever become Hokage even if their clan had the most devoted and powerful shinobi of their era. Konoha was simply transformed by Tobirama to be a disguised Uchiha apartheid and this is the bloody truth we can't deny.
Also, after Hashirama tried to give the title of Hokage to Madara I just realized that maybe Minato did the same to Fugaku.
Yeah, imagine if Kushina and Minato promised Mikoto and Fugaku that should anything happend to them they should take care of Naruto and the village but then Konoha just slammed the door in their face because the Uchiha's should never get close to the jinchuriki or a power seat.
Worse if Mikoto, Fugaku and the Uchiha weren't present the day the Kyubi attacked because they repelled an invasion from Kirigakure.
I mean, Tobi was the de facto Mizukage and if he sent an army from Kirigakure to attack together with the Kyuubi then Konoha would have fallen and disappeared from the earth.
Yeah, imagine if Sasuke's parents were truly heroes but instead of a warm welcome they were blamed as potential conspirators and denied the inheritance their best friends left to them.
I too would riot against the government if my best friend died and they wrongly accused me of treason whilist in truth I saved the day and nobody believes me.
i'm glad madara isn't an emo uchiha . he is calm and rational . his motives for leaving are true and his clan should have listened . Tobirama ( love this character ) isn't hashirama , naruto or even gara. he isn't willing to leave the past behind and ( forgive ) your enemy so you could achieve true peace ( the whole theme since pain ).
that's not saying he is crazy or anything he just couldn't do that and i can't really blame him he is human after all. but then again i can't blame madara either for knowing how tobirama felt and deciding to leave
i love these situations where neither sides is really wrong , great chapter
It's something like the Matrix, but without Madara harvesting people to continue his life, and with a better world in mind...
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Anyways...I'm not really arguing or passing judgment on whether Madara's plan is good or not...I'm just saying that given enough thought, there might be some interesting ideas in there...
In theory it might sound lovely but in reality they ll be slaves of Madara and for how long this genjutsu will be effective etc etc , These are its drawbacks and currently his henchman seems to disagree with him over the implementation of this plan. But in all seriousness that is against the concept of free will and personal freedom etc etc