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No, Blackbeard was introduced in Jaya for the first time. Luffy didn't even know he was Blackbeard until they met in Impel Down.
I think Nami asking Luffy and Zoro if he has companions is a red herring to make the scene more ambigious. Him having a crew or not would have been rather irrelevant for them if you think about it . Quite frankly, I don't even see why they would respond by saying that he has a crew. If you interpret it as they saying he has a crew, a paraphrased scene would be something like this, which makes little sense:
Nami: He probably knows something about the Sky Island.
Zoro & Luffy: Don't know. It's not a "he" though, he has companions.
It is far more logical that they corrected her when she assumed that he's one person, to me at least, and in line with the direction of the conversation.
How in the world would Luffy and Zoro know that Teach, someone who they don't even know, haven't met before, haven't sailed with, or even fought against, have an "abnormal" body?
Luffy and Zoro correctly guessed that he was a pirate and had a crew probably from his speech he gave them. Where he casually mentioned the "Age of Pirates" and how dreams will never die. They could easily assume from that line alone that he was a pirate and most likely had a crew. Zoro himself even says probably.
We should not over think the incident in Mock town. Luffy and Zoro had noted that BB and his crew mates stood out from the rest. There is nothing more than that. The place was flocked with pirates and Zoro & Luffy's intuition told them that the men were together. As for BB I think that there his possession of multiprocessing fruits is due to Yami Yami no Mi.
We know from early OP that DF contain 'devils' within them and consuming two will have both devils fight ultimately killing the owner. However BB YYnM sucks in the ability as we'll. This allows him to successfully posses several fruits at once. BB has had an association with three & I think he is also going to have three fruits.
I am going to go for Marco as the final piece to complete his trifecta. We know of the disadvantages of YYnM and the Phoenix fruit easily makes up for its inconvenience. Marco is also BB enemy and it makes sense to me that he would seek to eliminate them. I know you are thinking that BB is going to be OP. To beat this Oda is not going to make his haki as great or will completely deny him all together.
I believe the truth lies in his flag. There are 3 heads on it. I believe that is some reference to his ability. He has 2 powers now. I believe he is capable of having 3 in total.
Perhaps that is his actual ability.
I know this is a very famous theory, but all the hints mentioned in earlier posts "Zoro and Luffy saying "they" and so on lead to this. No idea how Oda could pull it off but I'm so excited to see it in the future.
By what kind of magic could have zoro and luffy know about this secret ability even Blackbeard crewmembers didn't know. There is a very simple explanation fir the they and this is the one which is correct.
luffy on the other hand, always seem to know who is opponents should be (always the strongest person). and during his fight with mr 3 when he kick the original body of mr 3. we could relate that to CoO, but at that time, it's pure instinct.
but anyway, until the truth is revealed about blackbeard, and Oda himself explaining the jaya situation, we may never know for sure. sure, i look like someone who's looking too deep into something, when the meaning is clear at the surface, but hey, you never know right?
Wow, still a heated argument after such a long time about his Dual DF.
Cerberus, Chimear etc. theories seem possible to me because of the flag and his atypical body. But I think it's because of the Yami Yami No Mi since he really wanted that fruit before anything else. If he had the ability before to consume a second fruit it's weird that he would pass on additional fruits except if the amount was limited and he really wanted the YAmi yami no mi and the gura gura no mi. In the end it's probably going to be a combination of effects. By the way, the claim that Zorro and Luffy called him they and saw through he's nature is ridiculous. Nobody else in Marineford understood it so if it's something that can be seen with some instinct it's weird that nobody mentioned anything there. Maybe that's Oda keeping us gessing but I don't believe that.
Now a new thing for the discussion:
He isn't using the Gura Gura no Mi at all. Is it possible that he can only use stolen fruits for a limited amount of time? Is the total usage limited? Or does he just want to rely on the Yami Yami No Mi for small jobs and unleash the Gura Gura No mi only when he's in a pinch?
Now there is another clue about BB that we must not overlook: In chapter 650, Jinbei tells luffy that BB has gone man-hunting on DF users and that conquered a lot of territory, "but strangely enough without using the gura gura fruit" !! yet during the marineford war arc he was shown capable of using both powers at once...does that mean that he can somehow "equip" DF one at a time and gain their abilities, somehow related to the Yami Yami's void property ?
There are certainly some interesting theory's going around for how BB got multiple DF powers.
1) BB ate the Yami Yami no mi and 'somehow' ate the Gura Gura no mi
2) BB ate the Yami Yami no mi and his 2nd head ate the Gura Gura no mi
3) BB ate the Yami Yami no mi and his saimese twin ate the Gura Gura no mi
4) BB ate the Yami Yami no mi and the Yami Yami no mi ate the Gura Gura no mi in a black hole.
I'm sure there are others, but how would we find out what is the correct solution? I say, if you know that you are going to fight BB, bring a DF with you to the fight. Keep it hidden until he uses his Yami Yami no mi against you and reveal it just before he grabs you. Depending on how his multiple ability works he will panic and reveal something about his secret. You may not even need to bring a REAL DF. One made up to look like one would be sufficient.
The only trouble is getting away afterwords to spread the word.
P.S. If it was a real DF, you stand a good chance of destroying him on the spot if he doesn't handle it right... but also stand a chance of powering him up if he does.
Last edited by Wowzers; January 08, 2014 at 01:54 AM.
My theory is he never 'ATE' a second devil fruit. His power allows him to absorb things into his body, so as long as he has a dormant power, in it's fruit form, in his void space he may be able to draw on it's power without eating it. it would make sense as to why his crew is currently hunting down powerful devil fruits.