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Except Sakura and Chiyo could clearly break him out, meaning it wasn't that tough.
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@Roman The only point where Itachi is above Sasuke is on grounds of Moon-genjutsu, and no where else. It's unsupported by manga.
^ At EMS level? Who disagrees with this? I would love to hear their tell-tales.
^ No taxing effects, better chakra consumption, and eternal light. Not to mention the only area where Itachi exceeds is overcome by Sasuke due to blood-ties. I don't see how he has any advantage over Sasuke.
Last edited by shahdan; April 30, 2013 at 06:55 PM.
Though to be fair, Sasuke would still do better than Naruto even if all three were in their base, basic mode.
itachi puts sasuke in inzanami, or seals him in totsuka blade, all attacks by sasuke are blocked by the yata shield since it makes all attacks ineffective
Proof? Because it seems to me people keep using Naruto's utter failure at escaping Itachi's Genjutsu as proof that he can escape any non-Itachi Genjutsu.Originally Posted by Roman
Nevermind the fact that this was a 30% clone and not the true Itachi.
Nevermind that he didn't use his Sharingan to cast it.
Nevermind that Naruto still failed.
Even more hilariously, you compared what just happened to Sasuke's Genjutsu. As if to imply that Sasuke's Genjutsu is less powerful than a 30%, Sharingan-less Genjutsu from Itachi.
whoaw, so many underestimates Naruto ._. Albeit I agree I'd like to see Naruto much stronger *without* the Kyuubi, but he certainly isn't weak in his base.
Besides I got a feeling that Hirashima will teach Naruto to use sage mode while in motion, as seemingly that is what Hirashima is doing in a recent flashback.
Jiraiya... Can't fight on kage level without sagde mode? Da fuq?
While we never saw him fight a kage opponent without sage mode, he still fought freaking Pain! Pain did even admit that had Jiraiya known Pain's secret behind his 6 bodies, then Jiraiya would have won, heck, he wouldn't have lost his arm to begin with.
Even if Jiraiya isn't on kage level without Sage mode, then I'm pretty sure he's darn close, because I doubt any other Kage could stand up to Pain.
Well this is just an opinion in the end, but I really do find it unreaonable to judge Jiraiya that low as "fact" when we clearly don't know.
so in essence you are using Naruto from part 1 eh? Naruto has insane chakra control right now. When he takes Kurama's chakra its his and he can manipulate it to a degree that left even Kurama impressed. Now he can't summon shit... Just lol..Quote:
This just shows how biased you are. Nothing more and nothing less. Of course I already knew that. I mean seriously current Naruto unable to summon shit under his own power? Meh...
And I stated that? I said that Itachi claimed he grew (in response to him fighting genjutsu) but not enough to do escape his genjutsu...Quote:
And I said he escaped? Did I say that the genjutsu did not work? I said that using Itachi as a measuring stick is BS. Naruto grew and knew how to fight genjutsu, only problem is that he like many others don't stand a chanse vs Itachi's genjutsu. Now Itachi did make a small compliment there and that is the point.Quote:
No, my point is that you are using ITACHI to prove Naruto is bad at escaping from genjutsu.Quote:
I keep seeing you posting this nonsense. When will you understand that its completely irrelevant what way that sword was pointing when he grabbed it by its sides?Quote:
Eh? I never noticed Sasuke doing anything like that. Yes they have speed but that does not mean that can do that. Those dudes where damn impressed with it.
Last edited by xXan; May 01, 2013 at 04:40 AM.
In regards to Naruto's chakra control, I find it kind of inconsistent. I mean, remember when Naruto was training to walk on water with Ebisou and Jiraiya? The only reason why he even had any difficulty was because Orochimaru's seal messed up his chakra control, right? However, despite that Naruto was slowly getting better at walking on water, which says a lot. If nothing else, I think this should show Naruto is better than he's given credit for, considerin he was slowly adaptin to his chakra being out of whack and still getting slowly better at walking on water.