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So, his enemy is Thresh, kinda cool. Can't wait to see Lucian-Thresh both lanes.
Lol, joking aside, this looks broken. From what I get, he doesn't even have to hit you with an ability to proc his passive. So, even if you dodge his W and try to get a shot at him, it'll probably be your Q (or whatever you level up first) against double aa. I pretty much doubt you'll be winning that trade. I looked up for MF Q, since it's a pretty good early damage source and estimated 93 damage (~70 ad, no armor reduction considered, since both carries will probably be running the same amount of armor -Graves passive excluded-, and it needs to be a Q bouncing off of a minion) and for same numbers, Lucian deals you 140 damage with two AAs. So, am I getting this right? A good MF makes good use of her Q, a Lucian misses his skillshot and he out-trades her with ease. Only explanation there could be is god awful long cds for those skills, perhaps. Or maybe if the timer for double aa after the skill used is going to reset ridiculously quick, it might be manageable.
There's probably a short cooldown on his passive, like say 10 seconds. Still pretty wicked.
Chaox said on his stream he estimates Lucian can dish out around 250-300 burst dmg in no time. That's insane lvl 1. His second (free) AA deals less dmg than normal, but the bonus dmg given from W will probably more than make up for it.
ADC like this just goes to show how terrible a champion e.g. Ashe is. Here's a good example of how broken a passive can be if tweaked around. Lucian's passive is essentially Ashe's passive only tweaked into two aa and requiring a skill being used instead of time between attacks.
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Not to mention we haven't mentioned that he has a freaking gap closer/escape reset which also removes slows. I'm definitely getting Lucian, lol.
Aside from SGU, this Patch 3.9 is total bullshit on so many levels...
I actually like it. Draven, Jayce and Kennen got nerfed, Corki got some love (a lot imo), sme with Ziggs. Some champs were changed to be more balanced (like LeBlanc), etc... it's actually a good patch.
Draven obviously takes the bat hardest, since it gets a passive rework. Jayce and Kennen get cd nerfs, which are sort of expectable. Rest are mostly bug fixes and stuff.
Item nerf on Manamune/Tear sounds more annoying, I'd say. Also, form changes of Jayce/Elise/Nidalee do not count for spell cast anymore, which will affect the time to stack it, albeit probably not as much as the cd increase of a second.
What I'm most interested in is the rework of Oracle. It no longer expires when you die, so, buying Oracle might be more popularized even in lower mmr now. Naturally, the radius decrease sucks, but still, 400g was just too much for an item that can be rendered useless in a split second if you die. Now, it's something more affordable, I'd say.
It's just nerf galore. Tons of Champion changes, tons of item changes. And most of the ones effecting me suck ass. Not saying they aren't warranted, doesn't really matter to me. The Tear changes are somewhat rough. Kind of stupid that skills like Jayce and Elise's R no longer fill the tear when used. That's just ridiculous in my opinion. It's on the hotbar, it's in their kit, yet it can't be used to fill a Tear. What about other skills that don't use mana? Like anything in Elise's spider form. Add this with the cooldown on the tear being increased a second. So they're against people "artificially" filling it up, but they have to nerf the item on top of that, because people might be "genuinely" filling it up quickly as well, like Udyr or Ryze. You sacrifice a lot early game to buy a Tear, it should pay off. Doing both of these things instead of one or the other, is harsh in my opinion.
Not sure how I feel about the Draven change either. It might not make a ton of difference if you can have the same success in a game with both passives. You might even end up getting stronger quicker if you get ridiculously fed. But even so, it takes away from the early-game dominance he has and that's why most people play him in the first place. Whatever, I'm kind of indifferent about it.
Kennen nerfed as well, meh
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"Oracle? Don't buy it, it's a waste of money" Random Darius against Teemo, 2013.
Yeah that's a nice change that I didn't notice. It's actually a big patch, I didn't expect more to be honest.
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Gary, just because they nerfed the champs that you play (the OP ones ) doesn't make it a bullshit patch.
Actually this patch didn't affect the champs I play at all (I barely go bot anyway), I'm just being objective
To be honest I don't find the patch unfair at all. Sounds like you're just sore about your champs being nerfed. I play Jayce too but I see that his E is just way too OP, especially when maxed and even worse with blue buff/cdr. You can speed up your whole team constantly and spam the poke. He needed a nerf, and quite frankly the E nerf isn't even big enough to make him anywhere near less popular.
The Oracle and ward changes are superb IMO. The Oracle change will make games a lot more interesting, and prevent suicidal actions from going after the huge "KILL ME" sign on top of the support's head.
The tear, well it needed a nerf too. I agree with taking away the stance switching (Jayce) as a tear proc. Now whether free abilities such as Elise's spider form kit should proc tear or not is another debate. Does Elise even buy a tear EVER? Kinda pointless to discuss to me.
Last edited by Nuno; July 09, 2013 at 07:18 PM.
good patch nunu jayce kennen all deserved nerf. they should've went harder on nunu
That's another thing, the Nunu nerf....it's barely a nerf at all. "Oh Nunu is finally popular again, let's not be too harsh gais!"
"No one plays Corki? Okay, then let's buff the living shit out of his mana costs!"
"We designed Jayce way too handsomely, nerf him and that fucking Tear!"
"Every pro says that Jayce is OP? Don't nerf him, Gogarory will get angry"
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And no one plays Corki because he's underpowered, he was played decently in the last season