and the reasin those very few who obtain EMS are so elite
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jaraiya is.a seasoned vet
he could break out of genjutsu or avoid being caught in it
and we know itachi cant just spam susa no o because of the self inflicted damage
the only reason he spammed it in the sasuke fight is he accepted that it would be his final fight
The old saying holds true, Jiraiya has absoultely nothing to stop Amaterasu. So he can't win.
its not like itachi can just spa .amateresu if he misses, or say hits some armor and jaraiya takes the armor or clothes off really quick, not only will itachi need time to recover and use it again, but he would not beable to use susa no o right away either
You can't talk in absolutes in these kinds of topics. I don't know who would win, but I say that Itachi would definitely have an upper hand in that fight.
Jiraiya isn't fast enough to make Itachi miss... You know wha? I'm not doing this. Everyone knows that at best Jiraiya have a 10% chance of winning,and his comment was made likely due because he didn't want to takeout te Konoha's bestat that time. So please feel free to believe what you want.
Itachi isn't unbeatable, but Jiraiya isn't one to beat him.
How do frogs help against Kisame or counter him?
well we saw itachi and kisame together flee from jaraiya, mainly because itachi needed to rest after one tsukyomi and one amateresu
he would definitely need MS abilities to beat jaraiya
Not really, he wouldn't. Itachi could have been lying at the time too because against Sasuke, he used Tsukuyomi, two Amaterasu, and summoned Susano'o twice without any rest. That Itachi would not need to rest or even resort to MS against Jiraiya.
yes but he had accepted he was going to die after that fight m3j
it was ok for him to.go all out
He still looked less tired near hte end of his fight with Sasuke than he did against Jiraiya. Once again, this could be Kishi's fault, but as it stands Itachi is superior to Jiraiya.
His true purpose in returning to Konoha was not to capture Naruto but to warn the elders that he is still alive and not to harm Sasuke. At the time maybe they'd result in a draw but after the recent info on Itachi and knowing their capabilities and what Jiraiya has shown, I'd give this fight to him but not without difficulties. On stats, he did tie with Jiraiya despite being all sick and dying.
He didn't really want to capture naruto either time, so he failed deliberately and was grinning because he had failed after giving a successful performance. At least that's what I think.
Btw, susano'o and shark dance combo would be quite difficult for jiraya considering how long his sage summoning takes, and how he can't use any jutsu while casting it.
jaraiya would need luck and to be flawless to even have a slim shot
and kisame and itachi together would have easily won had they actually tried
only two rationale make sense
either itachi wasnt as strong then, and needed more time to rest after MS usage
or itachi didnt really wamt to capture naruto, and used his fatigue as an excuse that would convince both kisame and pain that they had.to retreat