Ahh, the herring thing is already there. I hadn't given any thought to the fact that herring is a saltwater fish though. Honestly, technically neither ymir or reyner should know what herring even is.
The castle could be from before the time of the giants though, basically the food could be 100 years old. The walls were built without most of the people seeing but at large someone must have been involved with that. That said, the fact that ymir knows what herring is is extremely relevant. It does suggest that her own home could be near the sea and so could reyner's.
A good enough wine can easily be stored for 100 years. I'm pretty sure I have heard of older bottles than that being collected in rich people's cellars. (Once you open it you have to drink it all, though.) Herring (although I'm sure they're specifically sardines in this case) can be expected to last a long time as well. Until we learn more I'm continuing to assume these are Old World foods that were collected before the ocean voyage to the New World. (Especially considering the cans might be fine OR might be expired for all we know.)
Maybe whoever built the walls made sure plenty of food was there waiting for the refugees to have something to feed on. Or maybe the escaping humans brought plenty of canned food aboard their ships when sailing to the promised land.
Either would explain why people know what herring is without actually having ever seen the ocean.
What I find also intriguing is how they are perfectly fine with the notion of canned food altogether. They are not surprised at all by sealed cans containing ratios (ie, they don't say "woah, this is something from before the Titans attacked" or "wtf is this" or anything along those line). Meaning the people from inside the wall can produce canned food (or have HUGE supplies of it).
Which is ludicrous, as canning food for long-term storing is a highly advanced process which requires both raw materials (Tin/Aluminium) AND lots of power (making tin foils and molding them in shape is a very power-hungry process). This is much higher tech that the one required for the rudimentary firearms and explosives they use.
Yeah I know SnK isn't really serious about keeping technology consistent with what technology level the population could possibly sustain (pressurized gas being another serious offender). It's still fine being it steam-punk and all, but I found this quite amusing.
Well, wikipedia would suggest the process for canning food was invented in the early 1800s, a point in which our technology was arguably inferior or comparable to that of SnK world. The space within the walls is huge and it was already said it was rich in resources so I don't think them having aluminum is that weird.
source: http://web.archive.org/web/200705091.../CON00043.html (archived on The Wayback Machine)Originally Posted by FDA Consumer magazine
Also, strangely enough high-protein foods like meat last the longest when canned so fish could theoretically outlast even those veggies/fruit/shellfish.
source: http://www.mealtime.org/about-us/faqs/Originally Posted by mealtime.org
I'm not advocating people try old canned foods (assuming they can even get their hands on them) in the real world, but it's entirely plausible in a fictional story for such exceptional circumstances to be reproduced. The can in the manga looked to be in fine shape so it may be expired, it may not. We don't know one way or another.
Last edited by kannazuki; June 27, 2013 at 10:35 PM.
Small comment here. Isn't it usually like, if they call it herring it's gotta be herring, but if they called it sardines it could be herring?
Also about the technology involved (canned food etc,) I've written my thoughts on this in the other thread so I'll just paste the same thing here since it's pretty related, do tell me if this insight sounds valid or not:
Originally Posted by Utsune
My conclusion is, if they know how to mass-produce (which they can, with the canned food, 3DMG, gas cans, rifles) they're actually pretty technologically advanced, in spite of the crisis they are in.
I think we're in front of an "anything goes" scenario. It's always like this with most fantasy stories, especially when steam-punk is involved. So I don't really expect much consistency regarding technology in SnK.
Actually, regarding the 3DM equipment specifically, I would really like to be able to get my hands on a translated copy of the 1st Light Novel, since it's focused on how exactly that was invented.
DOnt know how I missed this one
Ymir says she died at some point.
-Titans are able to feel pain but the expression of pain varies from individual to individual. (Taken from Sawney and Bean)
-"Mindless," Titans are able to understand parts of human language, including insults. (evidence taken from Titan's reaction to Ilse telling him to get lose from the world, as well as Mitabi squad http://www.mangapanda.com/shingeki-no-kyojin/11/19)
I will add the pain part.
However the understanding insults part is highly questionable and the manga did not outright stated it. I would think the understanding insults part would be more theory than fact at this point.
I thought I'd add it because it occurred twice in two seperate instances.
Maybe the titans react not to the insults but to the shouting, so they were aware that humans were near and proceed to pursue them. I don't think they understand any word from humans to be honest.
I agree, the titans reacting specifically to insults is far cry from what we know. The point of the thread is to compile facts. Interpretation or theories based on those facts are a different issue which can be discussed here. The only fact we can derive from those panels is that titans are able to hear which is not much to be honest.