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So if you take Juha's words litteral and true, that uryu is the last "living" Quincy, then both Ryuuken and Ichigo are proven to be dead, aka souls.
I do wonder when it happened to Ryuuken though, perhaps he made himself a soul recently.
Kinda glad, cause I was tired of the Ichigo is still alive discussions, and this is another dent against that theory.
While Ichigo is only 50% Quincy, and Uryu probably estimated around 75-95% Quincy since his mother was a halfblood and farther a pureblood, then that should make Ichigo similar to Uryu at least. Yet Ichigo died when he had his chain of fate cut back in early Bleach, Juha's words seems to support this now, for what it's worth.
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Unless of course Mayuri destroyed his soul during the experiments?
Masaki I have thought about this for a while, in fact, there is a scary pattern for this...
- Mini Introduction Arc.
- SS Arc - Save Rukia.
- Middle Arc (Aftermath of Aizen).
- HM Arc - Save Orihime.
- Middle Arc (Fullbring).
- Quincy Arc - Save Masaki.
You can also see it this way, save a love, save a friend, save your mother, the 3 possible relationships with the opposite sex, which matches along with Ichigo's 3 key powers.
How each power symbolises with each Ichigo has rescued or has to rescue is up for another debate, for example how Orihime was in the "Lust Arc", symbolism which could point towards them never ending up being together, while others may see it differently.
All in all, will Ichigo venture into Quincy lands to invade it to save his Mother, should he learn about her being there?
According to Juha's words this chapter, it will take a while, a short while but still a while, for Uryu's powers to awaken and thus starting the next invasion, and this could give Ichigo time to invade the Quincies.
Might say that he will stay at the Royal Guards to train, but Ichigo never liked training, he always just rushed into things half finished training.
If he somehow learns about his mother being alive as a soul, then I got no doubt that he'll do the very same thing, all over again
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Heck perhaps he'll bring along Byakuya this time
So Renji, Rukia, Byakuya and Ichigo invading the Quincy palace, I wonder how that would even play out if it ever came to be, and how exactly would the Royal Guards react to this? Would they allow it? Is it possible to leave the Royal Dimension without their permission?
But if it came out this way, then they would probably team up with Urahara, Chad and Orihime who already are in Hm where the Quincy palace is supposed to be hidden.'
Edit: HOW could I forget Grimjow
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Also just realized we still don't have Stern Ritter Colonel Sanders/Commissioner Gordon's name and schrift. I think he's my favorite one so far.
Ywach's face = "i'm on to you, and i raise you"
Uryuu's Face = "Fucking hells to the yes, i got me an empir... what wait a minute some dusty old scrolls WTF"
Ywach's off-panel face = "oh silly you, did you think you was getting my Empire, Oh no no dear boy, you have just been Ywached "
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Aizen did not particularly aim to be worshiped though. He merely asked to be followed and ultimately each and every arrancar there followed him whether they hated aizen or loved him. Hinamori is the only case where he wanted to be worshiped or something similar to that and as far as we know hinamori is still a mess. Safe for a few exceptions most of them at least respected him. Its not like grimmjow and co were the norm, specially if we consider arrancar outside the espada.
I still think that guy is somehow related to ishida. I am kinda hoping he is souken's brother or something... he does kinda look like him after all.
Oh, and B obviously stands for Bishonen.
When I saw it first, I thought it was a Garganta, but now...
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So yeah, he might have planned some of it, and also the fact that a lot of things did happen because of Aizen yes, but he never planned all of it, he's getting way too much credit for it.
It's the same as saying you were only born today because of the domino effects after World War 2, in other words, as disgusting as it may be, you may only live today because Hitler did what he did.
The same can be said about Aizen, it's a bit arrogant of him claiming to be the designer of Ichigo when most of it wasn't intented, he just pushed the domino effect unintentionally into action, that's all.
Some few things he did plan though, but far from all of it, especially not the love between Isshin and Masaki, who in essence made Ichigo who he is as in personality, Quincy and Shinigami, and the meet between those two was completely random and unintented through Aizen.
Aizen deluded himself to think he was a God, an all knowing, of course being deluded he thought that he made Ichigo, but it was merely an indirect result from his actions, something that was out of his control.
The only thing Aizen truly did in his control was sending Byakuya in search for Rukia.
I don't think he did send Rukia though, how did he manage that when Ukitake was in charge of her? It seems a bit far fetched that Central 46 would send a spicific low ranked Shinigami to a specific location.
Although, I agree it's a bit weird that the person who had the Hougyoku ran straight into Ichigo, the most unique being in the Bleach-verse, so perhaps there are something to sending Rukia afterall. But what else could he plan?
He could anticipate Byakuya going after Ichigo, and Zaraki too, but as far as making it happen was out of his control, he could only anticipate it happening.
Also there is no way in hell Aizen would have predicted Rukia giving Ichigo her powers leaving her powerless, and as a result go missing in SS, there is just no way he could predict this happening, these situations can turn out differently in 100 different scenarios, at minimum, heck Rukia sud have been powerful enough to kill it, had she not had to save Ichigo going suicide mode.
As for Juha Bach, I agree we sud have had more clues from early on in the manga, especially considering we were told more than once that the Ishida's were the last Quincies, so it was hard to imagine more to appear, although as dead Quincies.
Imo the Lore and Myth about the Quincy King one day, yet unknown time, returning should have been mentioned pretty early in Bleach, back when the Quincy was introduced, it would also have added some more excitement to Uryuu's development through the series.
Not revealing too much, but the uncertainty of idea of a Quincy King appearing one day could have made this arc all the more legit.
i thought yama jii already killed that fear sternritter dude. that with the mask thingy.
Ishida sure got a better welcoming party then Ichigo.
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Seriously, the guy had zilch to do with Ichigos birth. It was all a massive coincidence. Lets not give him credit for everything.