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The Rinnegan, or the Samsara eye, is stated to be the eyes of Rikudou Sennin. In several manga scans we actually see Rikudou Sennin sporting a pair of Rinnegan aswell. For all intents and purposes one should consider this a Kekkei Genkai; a power bestowed to him due to his genetic makeup. Unfortunately it's been implied by some posters that Rikudou Sennin's doujutsu originated from his transformation into a jinchuuriki (my only guess is that, because the Juubi's eyes resemble both the Sharingan and Rinnegan).
My question is, where did these eyes originate from? A kekkei genkai? Status as a jinchuuriki?
Personally, I'm sure it was a kekkei genkai. Rikudou Sennin is the father of all ninjutsu, and it simply makes no sense to believe that he defeated the Juubi without the use of the Rinnegan. It's also incredibly unlikely that he created ninjutsu without the use of the Rinnegan, since we know that the Rinnegan grants one access to all paths of chakra, and it takes knowledge of chakra to create jutsu. Rikudou Sennin just coming across the secrets of chakra one day out of the blue seems unrealistic.
i have a second question to add to this thread because it seems appropriate
once someone awakens a rinnegan from a sharingan
(as far as we know madara was the only to do so)
can that person go back and use sharingan abilities?
and if the answer is yes, (im pretty sure madara did)
wouldnt nagato have had the anility to use sharingan abilities due to those eyes being madaras?
Madara has used both Genjutsu and Susanoo, so that answer would be a resounding yes.Originally Posted by Kisame Hoshigaki
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no, since he received the eye through transfer. It's the same reason Obito's Rinnegan eye wouldn't turn back into a basic Sharingan whenever he wasn't using it, aswell as why after Nagato died his eyes didn't turn back into normal eyes. He died from loss of chakra, and we all know that when someone with the Sharingan runs low on chakra, their Sharingan turns back to their normal eyes. This didn't happen with Nagato.Quote:
Kakashi also is incapable of turning his Sharingan off. So yeah. I'm just guessing, but I'd say I'm spot on with this.
Well, yeah. But even with all the silliness I doubt Kishimoto would expect us to believe that some guy just woke up one morning with the power to defeat the Juubi.Originally Posted by narutotheory
Last edited by ninjabot; July 08, 2013 at 11:41 PM.
I think it was a freak mutation, as Kakashi said. It would explain why Rikudou Sennin is the only one known to have Rinnegan... though Juubi may have had a hand in helping?
I think it was simply some sort of mutation he acquired because of the environment or something he picked up from something organic which then evolved into every power he had.
Possible, or the mutation happened while he was conceived or in his mom's stomach. I mean, nothing so far disproves Kakashi's claim, considering Rikudou Sennin's known to have Rinnegan before fighting Juubi.
i mean its a bit of a plot hole, in theory if those eyes had sharingan abilities before they should have them after transfer
but i dont think kishimoto was really considering all of that when he revealed to us that nagatos rinnegan came from madara....
however your theory sounds good enough to satisfy me
Yeah. That's what I was getting at. It's been implied by multiple posters that the Rinnegan comes from the Juubi. So... can we lay that to rest now or...?
Hmm, although the question now is why the Juubi has Rinnegan mixed with Sharingan... I'd say it's because Rikudou made him in his image and therefore put some of the characteristics of himself on it.
It could be that Juubi's RInnegan is the real Rinnegan or the completed Rinnegan while Rikudou Sennin's was somewhat watered down. If the Juubi really is the creator of all things, then Rinnegan might have played a big part in that, and it could have been THE Rinnegan. It was said that Rinnegan can create stuff.
Hmm, or the Juubi made a watered-down human version of itself - Rikudou. My best bet.