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Welcome to the Quarter Finals of championship fights of the second Bleach Tournament!
Here are the contestants who will battle against each other to advance to the next round in the championship bracket:
This should be interesting
I'm currently siding with Ichigo here. Interested to see the arguments for this one
I could see Shinji's shikai being particularly painful for Ichigo. I'm going to have to think about this one some more, maybe get some insight from the offerings of others in the forum.
This will be hard. Ichigo is hot-headed, stubborn, but very strong opponent. The thing is, I can't see him fighting in Sakanade's reversed world like Aizen. We still don't know how Aizen countered that. After cutting Shinji he said "Kyoka Suigetsu is stronger" and "he beat him at his own game". I always thought he just used Kyoka Suigetsu on himself to reverse that ability. But still, Ichigo wouldn't be able to fight Masked Shinji in that world. Even if he figured it out, he would be severely injured before he could block one or two slashes. It's not a matter of blocking one slash. He would have to block consecutive slashes and still having everything sort out in his head. If you think carefully you can block one slash. But you won't be able to figure everything out while facing slash after slash. And all of them are from the other direction, but direction you're looking is opposite, just like side of a slash. Up and down is also opposite. So if Shinji slashes upwards towards Ichigo's face from the left, what is a REAL slash? Can Ichigo figure it out in short span between two slashes?
Even without Bankai Shinji wins IMO. Ichigo is much stronger, but his opponent is just inconvenient.
Last edited by Duniak; July 13, 2013 at 07:38 AM.
I agree, just because you hit harder doesn't mean you will win the fight.
Ichigo is very strong and fast but i just can't imagine him figuring out Shinjis shikai fast enough (if at all) to defend against it and defeat Shinji.
As has already been stated, Shinji's ability is very, very problematic for Ichigo - As Shinji states, the more experienced you are the more effective Sakanade is. Ichigo fights instinctively, using his speed and power. He gets in close and overpowers the opponents, and Shinji can easily get Sakanade off, at which point despite Ichigo's strength he becomes a sitting duck, blocking and swinging at air.
Saying that, Ichigo's speed may cause a problem, and his GT is bloody powerful, however Shinji is a captain and leader of the Vaizards so he's not likely to get OHKO'd...
Well, now that I thought about it, Shinji's ability is even more troublesome. He can basically disappear into thin air, by going consecutively into shikai and going back to unreleased form over and over again. He is in front of you, so he is at your back. Then, he goes into non-shikai, disappearing (because he is behind you in fact)and slashes you. Then he attacks from fron of you, uses Sakanade, disappears, you look behind you to see him, he disactivates Sakanade, he is in front of you and you can't even see him. Damn, SRs are sooo fuc*** while fighting him. Well, that's why Shinji was only bruised and rushed to other Sternritters because Yamaji would "steal all the fun".
Ichigo is not smart enough to figure out how Shinji's shikai works, and even if Shinji told him, he wouldn't be able to adjust. Ichigo is not Aizen.
Anyone else think it's awesome Ichigo may be taken out before the Semi's?
Though with the silent majority of voters, the discussion is no indicator of how this is going to go sadly...
Am going to join the Shinji bandwagon.
This is just not a good matchup fro Ichigo (especially as this isn't FGT Ichigo)
I expected someone to argue against my point about Shinji's shikai, maybe put another perspective forward. It seems as though everyone is pretty much in agreement on this, I guess I'm going to vote now. I guess power alone isn't enough.
Damn, I hope there won't be much people who will just vote "Ichigo" because he is main protagonist. In the end it may turn out, that Shinji is the strongest being in Bleachverse. xD But hey, we have more interesting match-ups like Kyoraku vs Yoruichi and Urahara vs Kenpachi... I can imagine discussions there. Two "intelligence and ability vs brute strength".
Last edited by Duniak; July 14, 2013 at 02:39 PM.
Even though Ichigo can use his bankai (well, pseudo-bankai), it seems Shinji may have the advantage here due to Ichigo's straightforward fighting style. I wonder if Shinji used his shikai against the Sternritter he fought though, how did his opponent counter it?
It's quite hard to fight when you can't trust your eyes, would Ichigo's instincts be enough in such a battle? Could he still fight effectively after Shinji slashed him a couple of times? I'm not sure, Shinji probably has the upper hand here.
People fight with their instinct. To shorten the span between decision and reaction, our brain created reflexes. When you accidentally touch something hot you take away your hand. Then you realize why. It's the same with reflexes. And Shinji's ability makes all that useless. But can Ichigo's brain accept that and NOT use reflexes? It's impossible. The more someone fights, the more reflexes he creates. Ichigo is so experienced, that he fights depending only on his reflexes. And whatever he does, his subconciousness will prevail. Even if he thinks I can't dodge it like that, his brain will still send an information to do it, then he might try to change it. If he gets used to it, he'd have to abandon reflexes and fight with them, and that will make his reaction time much, much, much longer. At the same time, he'd have to think how he has to dodge it and react accordingly. It's next to impossible. How did Aizen do it? I can only think of copying Sakanade's ability with his Kyoka Suigetsu and using it on himself. That'd explain those "beat you in your own game" and "KS is stronger, bitch!" lines.
Last edited by Duniak; July 14, 2013 at 04:35 PM.