You can take this with a grain of salt or w/e youd like, but theres a lot of talk of sasuke/naruto needing a power up, and naruto we have "Gift" from minato which hasn't happened (most likely the other half of the kyuubi) and for sasuke what do we have? Since all we get with sasuke is Eye transformations its pretty easy for us to assume a rinnegan could come up for him.
I was opposed to this for a long time because like it's stated it requires Senju dna as well to unlock the rinnegan, but theres also something else that requires senju dna to link to along with uchiha.
Gedo Mazou, Why does this matter? This is why.
This is something i found recently and thought was interesting, It seems as though obito did have some sort of plan to make sasuke the 4th or 5th sage of six paths (idk what number know i think he called nagato the 3rd, but i dont think a dna mix is all that u need for something like that but i could be wrong)
It could mean he hadn't put senju dna cells in yet i guess, but if he had plans to attach him to the mazou i couldn't see any reason why he wouldn't have.
if you disagree it's fine just make sure you don't make it sound like what im saying's impossible because it's not.
sasuke + rinnegan
and naruto + other half of kyuubi chaakra from his dad
= a good matchup for juubito
Unless they give Sasuke a source of ENERGY, he's just not going to equal Naruto in full kyuubi mode. Not anywhere close. Since part 2, Sasuke has not gotten any source of energy. And it's not like you can triple your own energy reserve just by having 4 kage-level battles. It takes decades. Give anyone a Ferrari, an F16 or a space ship. It's not gonna make a difference unless you got serious amounts of GAS. Sasuke hasn't got gas. He's stuck with a shitload of Ferrari's and F16's, but no justifiable source of gas.
Last edited by Xrayz0r; July 15, 2013 at 02:01 PM.
Karin is his Gas-Station.
Naruto is gonna be the battery while Sasuke will do all the job ... we have seen it already, when naruto saved Kakashi and Gai
I think he could has his CS again .... Now he has juggo gens and oro soul isn't there to bother him .... So imo cs (his version of SAGE MODE) would be major power up for sasuke ... Even though he still doesn't shos his ems power but juubito isn't a enemy that sasuke could hide his power against him( do not forhet that he always hiding some of power for critical moment )
well that is possible.. he has the eternal sharingan already, Madara discovered it before his defeat, and Kishi right now can just do whatever on his dying manga, so yeah.. it is possible... but tha won't make any difference against juubito since he has rinnegan, mangekyo, Hashirama Dna and the juubi to top the list...
Originally Posted by Xrayz0r
He doesn't have to be. And in fact, he isn't supposed to be. The motif Kishimoto has followed since the beginning of the manga is that doujutsu are used by characters that don't have a particularly large chakra reserve, so that these incredibly powerful techniques will have even more risk to them. Doujutsu users=High risk for high reward. Strong body users=low risk and high reward.
That said... having the Rinnegan would instantly put Sasuke on a level where he was useful as an ally against Obito for 4 different reasons:
1: Chakra (or gas as you put it) is no issue because of Hungry Ghost Realm. Nagato went from a decrepit old man to a youthful, powerful form just from syphoning chakra from Killerbee. Imagine how much chakra Sasuke'd have from syphoning some from Obito?
2: Defense against high power chakra attacks of no issue, once again because of Hungry Ghost. No chakra based attack will harm him.
3: All of these powerful techniques (Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Banshou Tenin, Asura Realm lasers, Amaterasu, Susanoo, and potentially Tengai Shinsei http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Tengai_Shinsei ) will be boosted x3 thanks to Naruto sharing chakra with him.
4: Human Realm. Obito has a soul. Grab soul. Rip soul out of body. GG.
As for the thread's intention, yes. This has been mentioned a few times before. Sasuke was likely intended to replace Nagato as the sacrifice to bring back Madara, so that Obito himself wouldn't have to die. Though Sasuke isn't a subordinate any more, and Obito's already made himself the jinchuuriki so... the only way Sasuke could possibly gain the Rinnegan now is for Orochimaru to pull some shenanigans, and somehow boost Sasuke's Rinnegan manifestation up a few years (since Madara didn't get it til he was nearly dead).
Then again... what if that's the true catalyst to awaken it? Not just Hashirama's DNA... but your imminent death? Nagato awakened it when he was about to be murdered by a random ninja. Madara awakened it when he was about to be murdered by... old age, lol.
OH SHIT. SASUKE ALREADY HAS RINNEGAN. FUCK.
Think about it! The last fight he was in, he wasn't in any danger because Kabuto wanted him alive. What if experiments to grant him his own Rinnegan were done to him while he healed from his EMS surgery, and Obito was waiting for dozens of ninja to push him to the point where he was about to die, hoping that the Rinnegan would pop out and he'd go crazy, killing off tons of enemy soldiers on his way to Konoha? That has been Obito's plan for Sasuke for like, all of Part 2. Send him to get his ass kicked and come back with more power.
The CS was designed to forcefully rip out chakra from you so you could last longer in battle. CS2 gave you a power increase and what not but was costly, it did damage to your body. It was a shortcut.
Sasuke lost the CS, and received a chakra boost. He didn't do any training to gain such a thing, but the limitations the seal placed on his body were lifted, and his growth into adulthood gave him more chakra. Just look at what he's capable of now compared to when he fought Itachi from the amount of techniques he can use.
Last edited by Delbi; July 15, 2013 at 11:15 PM.
IF he got rinnegan it would actually assist in his battery problems since hed be able to absorb chakra/ninjutsu, if he got a curse seal again that'd ruin the story pretty hard, reading ppl who want sage mode but i can't see it happening, doesn't seem like something that's gonna make the difference now at all. besides you can't just be like WELL RINNEGAN wont help sasuke fight obito cuz obito has rinnegan + lots of other stuff, but after madaras edo tensei we find out almost immediately that the eye power of someone who has an implanted rinnegan is significantly less than someone who unlocks the rinnegan. This isn't saying that theirs is stronger, but the combined usage of EMS + Rinnegan and being able to switch between allows such a large array of jutsu at ones disposal.
But if naruto gets the rinnegan and becomes the 2nd coming of the sage like the tailed beasts were saying then i could see that working most effectively against juubito. But i guess if they just get power boosts and fight juubito it'd be like sage of 6 paths vs his 2 sons.
its a completely different concept
sage mode harvests and makes use of surrounding nature energy to boost all stats
cursed mark is more like a cheap way to gain quick power with a cost of your own freedom as it eventually consumes you
if anything the cursed mark is a huge double edged sword
while the sage mode has almost no disadvantages and no side effects
Sage Mode combines Natural Energy and Chakra to enhance your normal abilities while giving you some new ones.
The cursed seal is based off of Juugo's blood. It grants you similar things that Sage Mode does (enhanced speed, strength, durability, and increases the power of your jutsu)
Ultimately, like I said, it's just a short cut and it isn't natural for people aside from Juugo's clan to use it, hence the coughing up of blood it caused to Sasuke. What is strange is the cursed seal seems to affect people mentally to a lesser degree than it does to Juugo who battles insanity and blood lust.
Good evidence sasuke's rinnegan occurring? I thought it was naruto.
The juubi who seen the rikudou to naruto, as in he seen naruto with two pair of rinnegan? Holly cow, that's a sign and a hint that naruto, instead of his frog+kyubi's eyes, he'll awaken the true eyes of a sage instead when he mix/use his sage mode together with the chakras of all bijuus. Then he'll awaken the true power of rinnegan.
Hehehe.If death is going to trigger another power up for Sasuke then it'll probably be the "Elder son's dojutsu".Well there's no concrete evidence that this a unique dojutsu(A dilute Rinnegan with probably new techniques),just a wild guess that he'd get this as he's the Uchiha right now (Let's just exclude Obito here =P He'd most probably die anyways).Uchiha are naturals at manipulating the fire and Sasuke manipulates the strongest fire Amaterasu skillfully xD
He'd have the eyes while Naruto would have the body and together they constitute the Sage.
Yeah Rinnegan are nothing but eyes but apparently they are obtained when one has both Uchiha and Senju DNA (Death might also be a factor here) so Sasuke wouldn't really be the spiritual part while Naruto would be the Physical part.Yin/Yang.Besides Rinnegan has been abused a lot and it'll be boring if Sasuke awakens a Rinnegan now,The same goes for Naruto.