For all we know, current Kenpachi still doesn't hold a candle to HOGYOKU'd Aizen, that was like 10x faster and stronger, trashing Yoruichi, Urahara and Isshin afer losing to Isshin alone. Yup, Hogyoku Aizen could avoid it. But Aizen is intelligent. Kenpachi is an idiot and is MUCH weaker.
Also, Kenpachi vs Nnoitra is pretty... normal. He was saying he was rusty all the time. Then he swung his sword creating shockwave and said he was warmed up. Then he annihilated Nnoitra. About his fight with Yammy. We saw like... 2-3 attacks that were the same like in the end of his battle with Nnoitra and he was fighting along with Byakuya. Saying he was stronger when he fought Yammy is baseless. We have no proof to say he was stronger during his fight with Yammy then he was at the end of Nnoitra's fight.
Urahara's got this I mean seriously all Kenpachi's got is swinging his sword that's it he strong no doubt but beating someone whose intellect is above even Aizen isn't ever going to happen! Urahara's tricky use of his kido his shikai and intelligence is hard for damn near anybody kenpachi lacks the smarts plain and simple and the speed, easy victory for Mr hat and clogs!!!
Well, in a straight fight I can't imagine urahara even vaguely keeping up. I don't think urahara would have that much of an easy victory even over a espada and this is the guy who trashed unohana easily.
Anyways, I am a bit iffy about the kido urahara used against aizen. The manga was never particular clear on whether they were something urahara had to prepare before hand or it would be something which he could use like any other kido. If he can use them just like any numbered kido then urahara should be golden here but otherwise there are a few issues. Not sure what to make of this.....
Last edited by truthspeaker; July 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM.
kenpachi is an idiot, he would be one-shotted by urahara wrapped in his invisible mantle. also,we haven't seen what kenpachi is capable of yet,he just became a little faster and stronger,but we can't count his zampakuto in this tournament
Urahara is by far my favorite character and i believe that he is one of the most powerful beings in bleach but since i don't really have any evidence of that it doesn't really matter for this match. Still, based on what we have seen so far and even taking into consideration that Kenpachi is stronger and faster than he was before, Urahara should win this. Kenpachi has a very simple battle strategy, only thing he does is slash around with his sword until he or his opponent falls. Urahara is too smart to get pulled into that kind of fight, he will evade and observe until he can deal a critical hit. Unlike Kenpachi he has many different ways to defend and attack like his very versatile shikai, kido or some of his inventions.
Last edited by sir_rocky; July 24, 2013 at 12:52 AM.
If a kido technique, then he should have access to it and be able to use.
If an object, then does that mean that, in this fight, he is not allowed his portable gigai either? Even though he has used it against 2 different people, in 2 separate fights.
It was stated that the cuffs sealed the reatzu escaping from a shinigami's wrists. It was not stated that they would work only on Aizen, like Wonderweiss's ability on Ryuujinjakka.
Therefore I feel that he would, and should, be allowed to use them. Kisuke does have the mindset to bring objects to fights that he may not necessarily have a use for - and then find practical opportunities to use them (such as the gigai vs Aizen).
It doesn't matter if he designed it for Aizen. Ichigo shot his first Getsuga at Urahara and noone has a problem with him using it on other people. -.-
And Aizen calls it technique, not device, so saying it's not a technique of Urahara is wrong.
Last edited by Duniak; July 24, 2013 at 03:18 AM.
With the kido-cuffs allowed, I am going to vote for the hat and clogs.
This is one of many tipping factors.
The technique is ideal against someone with an obscene amount of riatzu.
Added to this is the fact that Urahara is very sneaky in applying the techniques - Aizen didn't even realise - and the fact that Kenpachi doesn't mind getting hit and isn't much of the dodging type.
Both of these will help Urahara apply the cuffs - and once applied Kenpachi is toast (or at least crippled enough for Urahara to finish him).
Last edited by zimbardo; July 24, 2013 at 07:24 AM.
What do you want shrimp?
Ah, nothing, just... you're dead!
What? You fuckin' mad, you idiot?
But nothing suggests it's anything else than Kido, so it's like using your own ability. Like Hado with number far exceeding 99, that noone can learn or comprehend, only Urahara's genius.
This fight just turned to squat imo. As did the tournament since special designed cuffs to seal Aizen's reiatsu can now be used as much as he wants (from fight to fight). Whats to stop him using other inventions like taking the armor he gave Yoruichi and doning it himself? With these inventions he can beat anyone. Theres no reason to discuss the fight now.