@Delbi: I would agree you about one thing; that I am discrediting Shikamaru more than he deserves. that much is true.
what is better? thinking more, forming strategies and then get defeated? or to come up with ideas while fighting opponents and winning the battle?
,Overall I salute Shikamaru's ingenuity, but in this war arc his thinking of the 'doton counter' somehow held stupidity that caused two blowing shits in the manga:
,1. How the fuck will a series of doton walls block Juubi's bijuudama?
,2. How the fuck people suddenly became doton users?
I don't mind that he can do what he can but at least explain. NAruto has had conversations with the kjuubi, he has had a guy explain how to use his jutsus.
Obito should at least have said "I know this negates all jutsu, I read it in the juubi handbook" or something.
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/630/12 , I was really disappointed by how kishi over hyped it . Please, look at this picture,and then think of why naruto has fallen so much: http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/630/16
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It's whether or not base abilities have a logical progression into greater abilities later on, regardless of origin: byakugan sees through things --> train it and you can see tenketsu --> hone that skill and you can start jyuuken --> become taijutsu deity. Sharingan predicts movement/sees chakra ~~> I guess use genjutsu if you feel like it ~~> emotional trauma; 2/3 tomoe, do the same things but slightly better ~~> manipulate reality with Izanagi/nami ~~>Quote:
kill your best friend, kill your closest person, witness an absurdly coincidental- but still thoroughly emotional- traumatic death; MS jutsu /: l These things don't make sense because of what Tobirama said. The Uchiha tendency toward ninja-bipolarity is definitely explained by what he said though.
Those shuriken/wire traps are fucking awesome for this very reason. Unfortunately beyond the two you mentioned, I can't remember any other times that sharingan's base abilities have been used as part of a later powerup. Except Kakashi using his then-new sharingan to complete chidori. The Sasuke/Itachi fight made me believe that Sasuke wouldn't get the MS at any point, to go along with that whole 'expert with a rock can beat a novice with a shuriken' thing. Boy was I wrong.
It'll be interesting to see what Minato and Naruto do. They will likely try to faint going after the stalk that Obito summoned and, like someone else said, Naruto will have Minato teleport everyone to safety. although, I don't think it's possible for people with wirelss Kyubi chakra to be teleported. More likely, Naruto will transform and everyone will touch Kyubi and Minato will teleport them away. Either that or Naruto uses his Bijuu Chakra Mode to touch everyone and then be teleported out of the barrier. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if something were to happen like Obito successfully stopping Minato and Naruto just for Tobirama to end up teleporting the stalk away. Many choices.
This bijuudama is supposed to explode right the moment it touches just like the other bijuu bomb attacks(take 4tailed Naruto's case for example against Orochimaru Ranshoumon), unless one has Hashirama Wood Golem to hold it. For plot sake yeah, but I consider that a lame strategy
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However, during naruto's FRS training, kakashi said that elemental recomposition of chakra usually takes normal people weeks to accomplish - even simple elemental recomposition. Yet, thousands of shinobi produced doton walls without probably ever having used doton before....that's what bothers me, because it contradicts what kakashi stated earlier in the manga.
Sharingan wouldn't let him use higher-level techniques though, it only allows him to see and copy the jutsu. Kakashi likely has an affinity towards suiton as well, which is why he could use the A-rank suiton jutsu. Plus, Kakashi's highly intelligent and capable, so it's not shocking if he could use high level jutsu from other elements. Maybe it's easier to do high level suiton because there was water available.
Oh. Probably the doton jutsu was that simple for anyone to use?
Kakashi only has Katon in anime only.
I don't know what complex sealing technique you're talking about. And Naruto has never had the Kyuubi explain anything to him, so that seems moot.
There was no way they could have made it out of the range of destruction.