A good series makes success with old series ending or not. We can see clearly the difference between the series which are cancelled and the popular ones. Assassination Classroom, Shokugeki no Soma, Haikyuu! and Nisekoi have more quality than the others.
Last edited by Leoat12; November 05, 2013 at 09:35 PM.
This is not the "way" that Nisekoi was made, the mangá had a plot and story but since the chapter 50, all this simply stopped and turned a infinite filler, nothing happens, not has romance, character development and etc, just random situations, one thing is a romcom, slice of life, other is a bunch of filler, i'm still liking Nisekoi, but sometimes i really get tired of the lacked of plot
Last edited by Shinuki no Reborn; November 05, 2013 at 10:16 PM.
What of important happened?? still everything the same thing, Raku don't makes anything and still knows nothing about the feelings of the others, Chitoge loves him but not make nothing, Onodera the same thing, Haru is annoying and lately has more attention that Onodera in the manga, Marika and Tsugumi still the same thing, the useless harem of Raku still increase more and more, the pendant was forgotten for chapters and chapters and returning just now, the story simply does not advance in matter of story and romance, i'm expected that in this week will a good chapter for the anniversary
Last edited by Shinuki no Reborn; November 05, 2013 at 10:42 PM.
For the editors, they can lean between two options:
A. Reserve the space and time for more established series, or
B. Use that space and time to fish through a pond of all the aspiring mangaka in the country in hopes that one will come out with solid gold.
It's true that they've been leaning towards option A recently, but they've already leaned towards option B much more compared to many other magazines.
It's a business strategy the editors have adapted for so long already, and it works well because it gives more mangaka a chance to make it big, as well as encouraging them to produce a higher-quality series. Consequently, it's not perfect because there are bound to be a significant number of cancelled series, but to the editors, it's all about the greater good.
I've been checking regularly through this Wikipedia page since about a year ago, the editors of which seem to keep very good track of past and ongoing serials within the magazine. There, I've been seeing some mangaka who, after tanking with their first serializations, have this bright idea of trying again.
Just one problem: if they don't bother planning enough for their new series, they're just going to tank again like their past serials, which has been the case for many of the recent serializations I've seen. They do a disservice to the editors and readers by wasting space on the magazine, to other, more competent mangaka waiting for months to have their new series published, and to themselves by giving a bad impression to the editors, potentially putting themselves on, dare I say, an editorial blacklist. Ask yourselves, for example, do you think Yasuki Tanaka is going to return after his second serial, Kagijin, failed all the way back in 2009, not long after his first serial also failed?
There do seem to be some mangaka who know what they're doing and had taken some serious effort into doing their homework before letting out a new serial, such as Yūto Tsukuda. His first serial, Shonen Shikku, bombed at ~16 chapters, but then he comes back with a oneshot for Shokugeki no Soma and collaborated with the likes of Yuki Morisaki, a professional in the culinary industry. Now, he's managed to pull what we can all agree is a smash hit. Personally, I'd put Daisuke Ashihara in this category too, having done two oneshots several years prior before finally serializing World Trigger, based on his previous works as mentioned. Although it's been extremely slow-paced, it seems to be likable for the moment among editors and readers.
As far as I can tell, the best way to find out if a mangaka planned well enough for their second serial is to check if they:
A. published a oneshot, AND/OR
B. waited a long-enough time after their last serial to publish a new one
I know it's subjective for me to suggest how long it should take for a failed mangaka to return, and I know it's none of my business as to when they want to return to the magazine, but when I see mangaka re-appear less than two years after their first failed serials ended, it gives me a very bad feeling. In some cases, I dare to say they might be impulsive, not trying, or both.
Actually, probably the most extreme example I've noticed is Kohei Horikoshi. Even though he published a precursor oneshot, Uchu Shonen Bulge, before starting Sensei no Bulge, he serialized Sensei no Bulge only a little more than a year after his previous blunder, Oumagadoki Zoo. As much faith I had in Bulge when it started, if I had considered back then how little time Horikoshi spent on planning this series, I would've given up all faith on him a lot sooner. Funny I mention this series, because I used to wish it'd stay longer in the magazine, not that all the serials after its existence were much better, but now I've actually come to reason why it probably got shafted so early in the first place; it's the anti-World Trigger when it comes to planning.
So that's my grudge with some of these second serializations from returning mangaka who had previously failed serials, little to no planning for their second, and potentially, only other chance on the magazine.
Last edited by FanOfAniManga; November 06, 2013 at 12:43 AM.
I haven't read Nisekoi is at least year. It could suck now, for all I know. From the complaints I have seen, it mostly seems like fans expecting the series to be something it never was. It's a harem manga, expect Nisekoi to follow harem manga genre conventions.
Last edited by Kaiten; November 05, 2013 at 11:05 PM.
1) They are by mangaka that had failed (sometimes rather badly) with one previous serialization and then came up with the current series which either became a hit or at least didn't fail immediately
2) They made one or more oneshots for the story before trying to do a series
3) They changed genres (sometimes rather dramatically) in contrast to the previous serialization
I'm well aware that there's a lot of other mangaka who went to similar processes and didn't make a hit, but my point is that it would seem that newbies are almost guaranteed to fail in Jump as it is now (that or we haven't had a really good newbie in Jump in a real long while xD)
I know how a romcom/slice of life works and i read/watch a lot of this type of series, but Nisekoi lately not make nothing. Since the chapter 50 the manga stop with real character development and plot, the romance never advance, not even a little, and the characters just are reunite for the random situations that not going anywhere, and Nisekoi not was this.
simplifying, the majority of lately complains is because the manga since a determinate moment stoped with plot and development that Nisekoi had before, and now is almost 100 chapters and everything still the same thing.
How i say before, i like and i read Nisekoi since the first week, but sometimes is really tiring the total lack of development and romance of lately chapters
Last edited by Shinuki no Reborn; November 06, 2013 at 12:54 AM.