But it seems to me that no one here said something like that; in fact I have seen people who were just giving their opinion about the current chapter and not the whole manga....
I don't know if you were refering to me with that "those who bash FT", but I'll still say to you that I really like FT and also those fan services that it has.
However I just think, as many others, that this time Mashima overdid a bit with this, especially considering the young audience to which FT is destined...
You want to know if I liked this week's chapter? Yes I did and also the fan service, even though, as I already said, Mashima exploited it to much in this chapter, risking to make his own manga just a load of Boobies and asses, which isn't true, considering that the plot of this manga is awesome.
That's my opinion and I believe I expressed it without sounding rude or anything else.
Hell, there's plenty of fanservice for the female readers too in this manga. So if anybody starts calling Mashima "sexist" about the fanservice with the girls, then how would you call Gray's constant tripping and naked, ripped-looking Natsu in this chapter?? I see nobody complaining about Gray's fanservice and Natsu. And yet Mashima gets a lot of flak when it comes to the girls.
There's a tendency to write like that especially from fans of Jump manga and people who say they have "a lot of friends thinking the same way" or they "already read a lot of other manga".
And again: There's nothing wrong with mixed bathing from a Japanese point-of-view as those scenes clearly show the characters' family bonds. Especially the parts about washing one else's back...
And you're actually much less rude than you're avatar implies.
Dang it. The chapter came out a day earlier than I was expecting. (Which would be good it I'd thought to check anyway, but I didn't)
Well, I have to admit that I was impressed with this chapter. It was simply amazing how those leaves always managed to be in just the right place, wasn't it?
As a girl, I don't care that Mashima does this. I suppose it's objectifying, but he's not the worst case I read anyway and he's got much stronger female characters than a lot of other stories. And I also greatly appreciate that very few men in this series keep their abs covered. The only major reason I don't like fanservice chapters is just because of the reactions they get (the only other reason is the potential for someone who does care to look over my shoulder). Too many people getting up in arms about how objectifying it is or how those other people are offended too easily. I like arguing, but it stops being fun when people get too emotional about it. That's usually more an issue I see on other sites I use than it is here, but... meh. There's nothing wrong with having a negative opinion about it or debating whether or not it was needed or okay or whatever, I just like it better when everyone's in total shock over something like the island vanishing and seven years passing.
Not much plot progression, but it's nice to finally hear something about Tataros. They were introduced over 200 chapters ago, I believe, so it's about time we started learning what's up with them. And the Book of Zeref too. I always figured it was a term for any old spell Zeref was strongly associated with/created, but it seems it's a physical object. I wonder if their are more copies in the hands of other villains? Or the royal family even, since the Eclipse Gate was supposed to be from the Book of Zeref.
TL;DR I don't care much for the reaction, but people are within their rights to be offended by this. Also, plot things were interesting.
Last edited by SerpentTailedAngel; October 11, 2013 at 05:45 AM.
Please direct any further discussion on the fanservice in the manga to this thread.
Wow this chapter was a big eye opener LOL! Erza nude with Natsu...I wonder how he can keep washing her back without jumping her right away...oh yeah it's because she can kill him, ahahaha! Oh man that pic of Erza on bended four...I just explode.
I already wrote my thought about the fanservice in this chapter in the the thread "Fanservice if Fairy Tail" so now I will write about it here.
Commenting seriously the chapter I think is it strange that Tartaros has the Zeref's book, since I have always thought from what said Hades that GH had the book.
But perhaps Kain or Rustyrose took the book of Zeref after the death of Hades, if Zeref does not killed him.
Another possibility is that the book of Zeref that Hades had was a fake, I think that would be great if someone modified the book and then gave it to Hades (perhaps it is for that reason that Hades was wrong in key's thing), or at least his demon eye could have have been modified, perhaps from Tartarus guildmaster, if it is a demon created by Zeref.
In the truth there is even a third possibility.
I have thought about it after remembering the flashback that Urtear had in chapter 335 We discovered that Urtear read serverl books and that after that she discovered Last Ages.
In this case then there is the possibility that Hades had not the book of Zeref, but read about the Zeref's keys in one of those an.cient book (even all the others lost magic that had the members of GH could have contained in several books).
Anyways if Tartarus will have really the book of Zereff, there is the possibility that they can create demons, even if in the truth counting that Silver seem to hate demons I doubt that He would join a guild that worships them.
I even doubt that they are able to create demons using Zeref's book, otherwise they would not need to gather new members.
But perhaps they wants to transforms the new members in demon, in this case then Minerva could have been really transformed in one of them, even if I hope that this will not be the case, I hope that Minerva remained an human, I just hope only that her power increased, at least for now.
Anyways I believe that Doriate was not an human that was tranformed in a demon, because if he would have survived the power up, I would not remained in Succubus eye, but he would have joined Tartarus, just like I believe will happen to Minerva.
Thread has a poll about the fan service, can't discuss poll in thread.
Can't discuss in too offensive and non-constructive a fashion. The idea was that people would likely have voted good/bad/boring based on what they thought of the fanservice anyway, but maybe it wasn't the best poll, all things considered.
I love the idea of Minerva being turned into a demon, though. After everything else, I really don't want her to turn good down the road, and her becoming a demon could be a good way to make her villain status permanent without wearing her out. If they have to defeat her, then she may even serve as a reminder/motive the next time they deal with someone being drawn evil. Like if Rogue's shadow starts to take over, possibly.
So much erza love !!! I almost needed a sanji style transfusion
I find it entertaining how she wants to bathe with natsu and gray in a sibling tupe relationship but they are both totall against it
but if nothing else this chapter was informative and let us know a bit more about tartaros
Now we can anticipate perhaps one of the more action packed epic arcs of the series to date
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Minerva would be badass as a demon
of course that does eliminate any chance of her being turned into a good guy
Last edited by REN KOUEN; October 13, 2013 at 07:08 PM.
Minerva turning into a demon opens the door for her redemption.
It could be a simple case when FT defeats minerva, the demon is defeated and she is able to see the world in better light.
The next chapter title is called prologue to Tartarus arc.
In this case we could see others members of Tartarus, perhaps all the 9 Kyuukimon members of Tartarus, even if perhaps we will see the one that we don't know in the shadow.
In the truth I hope that we will not see only them.
Perhaps even if I believe it is too soon we will see what happened to Minerva.
Infact I would prefer if at the start we will return to guild, the five member returned to the guild, we could see even their reactions to what they have learned from the others.
I want to see Lluvia, since she is my favourite character of Fairy Tail, I really would like to see her reaction if Happy will say her that Gray saw Erza and Lucy completely naked (even if I believe that this is unlikely).
Another unlikely thing is that Flare will join Fairy Tail, even if I am sure that She will appear again in the future, since I am sure that we will see Tartarus and their followers, perhaps even with Oracion Seis (in the truth I don't know if OS will be from Tartarus side or against them, even if I would prefer if Angel, Cobra and Hoteye will be allied of Fairy Tail, while the others member will be from Tartarus side) against an alliance of all the guilds, an alliance composed by all the guilds that partecipated to the tournament.
This time the alliance will be authorized or perhaps even promoted by the Council of magic.
Then I believe we will see the Magical council where they will discuss the new informations that they received by Fairy Tail (Minerva, the ice demon slayer and the fact that perhaps Tartarus has the Zeref's book).
I really would like if We will see even Gerard and Meldy, perhaps because they will be informed by Mest, even if I don't think this will be the case.
At the end as I already said We will finally see some members of Tartarus.