just a crazy jab at madara's trumpcard...
could it be orochimaru?......
well,lets look at all the connections.........
1)the eye transplants...who did this for madara and who gave him a spare sharingan?
2)the ET...if orochimaru had madara's dna,why did he not summon him during the invasion of konoha?
3)the hashirama plasma...how is it that oro knew that the zetsu's were sufficient enough to become sacrifices for the ETs?
4)danzo...why would danzo even think of letting oro experiment on him without solid data on the matter?
1)orochimaru obviously...seeing how oro used uncountable amounts of orphans to get info on hashirama(yamato being the outcome)...no tellin how many uchiha he used to get data on madara.i wondered why he never went for naruto(seeking a strong body)since seeing that eyes can be transplanted.it's because,he found that the uchiha(especially the likes of madara and sasuke)can be just as strong as a senju/uzumaki....
2)this one i believe...he thought madara was still in fact alive(hence obito masquerading as him)...or it could be the fact,that madara warned him beforehand that he knew how to break it.maybe,even being the one to show oro how to do ET....
3)i believe he worked with madara,to create the GM and maybe zetsu also...remember oro was part of akatsuki and was very very wanted by them once he left the organization....i think it had more to do with retrieving a friggin ring or sasori's revenge....
4)i believe this had a lot to do with the assassination of nagato/yahiko and seeing the rinnegan in action...may have even been a deal for danzo to receive the rinnegans as payment...only to be backstabbed by oro(to obtain them himself)....
also the fact that nagato may have been an orphan from the start...who else better to find an uzumaki orphan than orochimaru?
hell he had karin under his wing and an ample amount of times to secure naruto....
was just throwing out some ideas...what do you guys think about it and if there are any other connections you may think also...feel free
we need madara and orochimaru to go on some wild killing sprees at the end if this manga is going to stand a chance for revival
i would love to see some real villains take over and make this ending epic
Orochimaru pointed out on numerous occasions this war is of no concern to him and lately he said he's just helping out because he can't allow Mugen Tsukuyomi to be cast due to the inevitable conclusion it would interfere with his experiments and search for knowledge.
Madara's goal is also Mugen Tsukuyomi, so how could Orochimaru be some secret accomplice if we know for a fact he doesn't want Mugen Tsukuyomi to happen?
I dont think they are working together
I just hold onto a shallow hope that this manga will end well, and oro and or madara could pull that off
I always think that Madara's true goal is to recreate a world with no clans. His trump card is probably taking over Obito's body the moment the latter falls to talk-no-jutsu.
If Obito and Kakashi's shared vision is an inherent feat of Sharingan transplant, then maybe it's possible for Madara to cast the jutsu remotely. More likely in Obito's case as 1/3 of his body belongs to Madara anyway.
i think there is something more sinister behind the moon eye plan than what we are told it's for. the fact that madara WANTED to be revived is why we can question madara's true intention for eternal peace through tsukuyomi. if he could entrust the moon eye plan to obito why would he need revival? madara's original plan was for madara to be revived through the sacrifice of nagato and then there would be obito + madara. now, obito is the only one capable of resurrecting madara which would sacrifice his life.
perhaps madara wants to use the moon eye plan not for peace, but for something sacrificial/brainwash people into thinking/believing certain individuals, once allies, are now enemies? this in turn would shape his own vision for "konoha" or the world. madara obviously wants to stand at the top of the world and since no one will accept him in reality, perhaps forcing them through genjutsu is his only way.
there was a rinnegan/sharingan in the flower itself so perhaps if it were formed, it could manipulate everyone, just as obito did with the mizukage. everyone would be living under the same type of control as uchiha shisui's unique sharingan.
I think Madara's trump card is black Zetsu with transplanted Rinnengan (maybe the other eye left by obito), then black Zetsu will perform "Gedo Rinne Tensei no Jutsu" to revive Madara.
To lazy to check atm, but I believe Misukage killed Black Zetsu
Last edited by hawaplop; November 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM.
Madara impregnated the Sages Mother. He will reveal the offspring soon.
Madara's trump card is that he doesn't need the bijuu to cast Mugen Tsukuyomi. He showed Obito part of it back when they first met while nearly dead and only connected to the bijuu-less Gedo Mazo. This was without the Shinju tree being created yet. Now that the bijuu chakra has been used to create the tree all he has to do is connect himself to it and cast the Genjutsu, since it'll likely have enough chakra in it to let the technique be cast on a large enough scale.
The only problem is preventing himself from being KO'd before the jutsu finishes.