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Garp did technically save Ace by letting Luffy punch him and get past. His duty as a Marine and his ideals are why Garp didn't want to save Ace, because Ace was a pirate.
This is actualy a hard and tricky question. The truth here is on a Garp's side. He is marine, not a simple low ranked one, he is a legendary marine and Ace is a criminal in his own way he is a legendary criminal as well. The only reason for marine corps to exist is to capture and judge the criminals, there is no family in duty, there is no exceptions in rules. What you are suggesting is a double-standart actions "yes, he is an infamous criminal..but he is my family so..". Na-ah this kind of logic should never exist this will do nothing but harm to everything.
Just to throw in some examples:
Byakuya in Bleach, in first arc he was actualy pretty much as the Garp, completly the same story, Ichigo tried to convince him wrong, but in my point of view Byakuya was 100% right.
And heres another one, not a shonen thou, Breaking Bad show (SPOILERS INCOMING!) when you are an agent of narco control and your family is a famous narcodealer, you just let it slip case hes your family? Hell no.
Double-standarts are a dangerous thing and im glad Oda is fighting this thing atleast in manga.
Last edited by Schabrak; November 05, 2013 at 03:04 PM.
garp is a true mans marine, he has a strong sense of justice and is one of the few marines who has not fallen to corruption
i can respect his stance on the ace execution platform, he was going to allow the execution to take place because to him, ace chose the pirate lifestyle
so ace reaped what he sewed
however when luffy went to save him, he did let luffy punch him without much resistance, almost as if saying "thank god now ace can be saved and i dont have to be the one to do it
and you could see his love for ace burning strongly when he wanted to kill akainu and sengoku had to stop him
Garp didn't save Ace because as a man, he had made his decision to set out to the sea and become a pirate; same as Luffy. Though we know from flashbacks that Garp had wanted both his grandkids to be Marine officials. Moreso, he has his own path to follow, which means him upholding the justice which the Marines stand for against pirate, however different his own tone of justice may be.
As we've seen, he was not beyond attacking Luffy at Water 7, though gave him a fair warning to try to escape and even stood between him and Ace at the platform, but in the end couldn't hit his grandson and essentially "turned a blind eye".
Not to say that his decision not try to free Ace was easily taken( he had even left his position at Marineford to secretly visit Ace) or without regret, but again, each had made their own decisions and so consequences...
I don't think there's much else to add or doubt there's many other ways to interpret his decision to not save Ace, it's all pretty much laid out in the manga for us to to see and not at all surprising to me. So, that being said, let's avoid delving into discussions about Marines and their sense of justice and/or corruption; there are threads for such topics.
Garp was fairly certain that Luffy would be able to save Ace. The part where, Garp let Luffy pass him on the bridge, shows that family is important to Garp, and let Luffy pass without much effort. The reaction from Sengoku is key here, as he noted that Garp let Luffy passed with little to no resistance. Garp know his grandson better than anyone else, and the person that would be able to rescue Ace, Luffy would be the one to do it.
Luffy was able to rescue Ace and both was free, but the outcome of Ace death was his own doing. Sound harsh, but it was Ace who decide to meet heads on with Akianu. Even one of the WB commanders was telling Ace to not challenge Akainu. As we all know the outcome. So the question, why didnt Garp save or rescue Ace? does not apply here, Ace was free and Luffy going through all the trouble to rescue Ace was for naught. But in Ace's death the progress and growth of Luffy is shown, and with any good story, progress is good.
Garp nearly lost his shit when Akainu killed Ace. If Sengoku had not restrained him, he would have tried to kill Akainu.
Well only Garp new Ace's real identity. He kept it from the marines even though he was employed by them. He even wanted Ace to become a marine to protect him.
He cried when Ace was going to be executed. Even Ace showed surprise when Sengoku announced that Ace is Roger's son, which means it was a well guarded secret.
While the pirates are all about ambition, the marines are about a sense of Justice. Garp's sense of Justice is quite strong, or atleast at the level of Aokiji if not higher. He even stopped Marco from rescuing Ace, but emotionally, family is very important to him.
There is no questioning Garp's love for Ace, he treated Ace just like he would treat Luffy inspite of not being blood related. besides that, Makimo;s comment answers this perfectly:"garp couldn't save Ace even after being so close to him" a regret Garp will always have
I SAY he did what he could for ace, i believe he wanted ace to escape and thats why he left luffy knock him, pretty much all he could do was not interfear. he made the right choice and it took its toll on him causing him to retire immediately after.
He made the hard choice but the right one, and the correct one piece choice as well.