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It's recently occurred to me that this 'final arc' of Bleach has several similarities to an old Magic the Gathering storyline involving the Phyrexians.
Juha Bach's description of the Vandenreich here is pretty much exactly what Yawgmoth and his Phyrexians did after losing a war, they built a new world, named Rath, and then did some sort of planar-overlay (idk it didnt really make sense to me) to merge Rath with the world they were trying to conquer, effectively putting their whole army onto their enemies's territory all at once. Which is exactly what Bach and the Quincies did.
This Quincy's comment about storing up powers for 1,000 years is also very similar to the flavor text on the card No Mercy
Even the artwork on this card is similar to the visual effects Kubo used to show his version of an overlay.
Personally, it feels a little like Kubo is 'borrowing' ideas to me, but I don't mind if I get to call Bach Yawgmoth and Uryuu Volrath. (And of course Ichigo would be Gerard since they are both genetically superior beings continuously tasked with the job of saving the world)
nice one, well personally its not a problem is there anymore to the lore of the phyrexians?
There are literally whole books of phyrexian lore but the mtg wiki has a semi-decent summary of them
Like I said, I don't really have a problem with it, it just seems very similar to me.
There are so many Magic cards, they will have gone through every kind of story/plot/whatever to cover pretty much most fantasy stories somehow?
I suppose that may be true, the card I posted is actually not about the planar-overlay, but about a group of phyrexians who got stuck inside a fast-time bubble, giving them years to train and prepare while the outside world only a few minutes had past. *cough*dangai*cough*
I suppose you have seen/read Dragonball at some time of your life, because the dangai during the FKT training isn't called Hyperbolic Time Chamber of Bleach for fun, it's origin is DB not some Magic card.
If Magic cards have as many mini stories as TVTropes has tropes, of course it's gonna end up with some overlapping here and there with one of the thousands of manga out there.
Last edited by Schabrak; November 06, 2013 at 07:41 PM.
im kinda curious now tbh, maybe we can even spoiler ourselves the ending to bleach by reading the lore
It's not really strange some idead overlap, the same way two worlds overlapped in MTG and Bleach. And some other stories if I remember well. Maybe Kubo did get the idea from there or somewhere else. Or he thought of it on his own. It's not exactly cold fusion formula