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    Kaguya is actually an alien

    Edit: It was confirmed that kaguya is indeed an alien. Guess i hit the nail on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzaku View Post
    Some new info from the new databook, which has a preview on the Shuiesha publishing site:

    The Otsutsuki are confirmed to be from another world. They arrived some 1,000 years ago seeking the fruit of the Divine Tree, which was born from the blood shed during the endless human wars. Kaguya ate the fruit and put an end to the war, eventually becoming a feared tyrant and ultimately fused with the Divine Tree to try and reclaim her chakra from her twin sons.

    After Kaguya was sealed, Hagoromo stayed on Earth to preach Ninshu, while Hamura took command of the Otsutsuki clan, which settled on the moon in order to guard the Gedo Statue.

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    Does anyone else think that kaguya is actually an alien? It sounds farfetched for sure, but what if?
    Back when hagoromo was telling his story to naruto, he told him that kaguya came from a "far away place to this land": http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/670/12
    The wording "place" is very indicative here i think.
    Naruto asked hagoromo again about where exactly she came from, and hagoromo sidetracked the question again by saying that it was not important where kaguya came from.


    Then we get this strange explanation from black zetsu, who says that it wasnt the holy tree´s will to turn into a monster to retake it´s chakra that was stolen through the consumption of the fruit, but kaguya herself made the tree turn into a monster and that she was part of it too.
    http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/681/11

    Madara said that kaguya ate the fruit to gain powers. Something feels fishy here if you consider black zetsu´s words.
    Hagoromo made it sound like she came "to this land" specifically to eat the god fruit.


    Why would kaguya need an army of soldiers, if the entire world is made of white zetsu soldiers that all belong to her?
    I think kaguya is of alien nature and was looking for a way to create an army to fight against another alien entity/race.
    The god tree wasnt on earth at all, kaguya brought it with her to enslave humanity and turn them into soldiers for her own war against another extraterrestial race. This would explain why she was a part of the god tree in the first place (like black zetsu suggests).
    She was able to enslave the entire world, but she got pregnant beforehand.

    When the two sons were born, kaguya´s power got divided into her two sons, which seems to be something she did not anticipate.
    She tried to retake that chakra by using the god tree against them by turning it into a monster (the juubi), but they defeated her and sealed her and the juubi.

    The only real question this explanation leaves open is what exactly the fruit´s role is in all of this.
    I know this is very far fetched and not completely fleshed out, but the explanation from madara/hagoromo/black zetsu dont completely line up.
    Madara started it off by telling us about kaguya. Then hagoromo expanded on that story.
    Then black zetsu comes in and tells us that hagoromo did not know anything, and that kaguya was actually part of the god tree itself.

    I think all of this is pointing towards kaguya being extraterrestial and the god tree not originally being located on earth.
    Currently, kishimoto is still keeping kaguya pretty bland as a character, not making her talk at all.
    She has yet to reveal anything about herself and her past or her motives. I can only think of one reason.
    As soon as she starts talking, we are gonna witness THE revelation and kishimoto was not ready to reveal it yet, thus she shuts up for now.

    Look at this panel where naruto asks hagoromo whether he is an alien:
    http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/670/7
    It looks like comic relief at first, but if you think about it a little, hagoromo even says
    "i an alien? hahahaha, i guess it makes sense though". I think this is foreshadowing, hidden behind comic relief.
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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    Well, even black zetsu said that kaguya CANT use a human into a soldiers. Meaning for black zetsu, even though the humans in the ninja world are ninjas, they are still being considered as merely humans. So yea, kaguya was creating a soldiers for her war against someone/something.

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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    If it is to be believed that the Senju and the Uchiha actually share a bloodline with Hagoromo and Kaguya, Naruto and Sasuke and all of their ancestry would also be aliens.
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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    Yeah I wouldn't be very surprised if Kaguya or the Juubi (or both) have something to do with outer space. Reminds me of Goku crashing down on Earth and spreading his Saiyan genes

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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    Considering the roots and original theme of Naruto, I can't believe it has come to this... But it actually does make sense, however silly it seems.

    Also assuming it's true that Kaguya isn't only looking to start a new world order with a new family/race, but actually is seeking to fight someting, then it sure is interest to ask, what that something is.
    Is it something "alien" that will attack the Naruto world?

    It'd be silly if this alien theme became stronger in the manga, however it would on the other hand also add more depth to Kaguya, and we'd actually perhaps get a villain that is more worthy than Kaguya.

    Madara was an interesting villain, but he didn't seem like a final one, neither did Obito.
    Kaguya is a big step up from those two, but still doesn't seem like a good final candidate, as Kaguya doesn't seem to show much personality.

    Something beeing bigger than Kaguya would both be good and bad for the story at the same time, in some areas it makes it plain silly, and in some areas it creates depths to the story and characters, considering it ties up a lot of loose ends and true villain character development.

    I wonder how it turns out in the end.. At least Kaguya would be anticlimatic to be the final villain, unless we see much more of her personality soon, very soon at that.

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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    It was confirmed that kaguya is indeed an alien. Updated the OP with the relevant info.

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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    the revelation of the alien origin remind me of Kishimoto brother work o-part hunter.

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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    Its a cool thing in my opinion, Kishimoto can even expand this by doing a spin off or something...
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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    So now Ninja's VS Aliens have a foundation. Or we have a sequel hook. We just need for the Biju to turn into robots when they go into space, and then things will be tottally awesome.

    What does it mean? It means your about to get your butt kicked!

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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    I guess alien meaning another dimension not outer space...?
    If the moon existed before the rikudou sealing I'd bet she came from the moon, but as I understand the moon was created sealing kaguya so I guess she came from another dimension

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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    No. She and the Otsutsuki Clan migrated from another world searching for the Divine Tree.

    After she was sealed and the moon was created, Hamura took leadership of the clan and they migrated to the moon to guard the Gedo Statue. Hagoromo stayed behind to preach ninshu.

    The villain of the movie is Toneri Otsutsuki, presumably the last of Hamura's descendants. He wants to destroy mankind because they're still using chakra as a weapon a thousand years after Kaguya's defeat.

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    Re: Kaguya is actually an alien

    Quote Originally Posted by Suzaku View Post
    No. She and the Otsutsuki Clan migrated from another world searching for the Divine Tree.

    After she was sealed and the moon was created, Hamura took leadership of the clan and they migrated to the moon to guard the Gedo Statue. Hagoromo stayed behind to preach ninshu.

    The villain of the movie is Toneri Otsutsuki, presumably the last of Hamura's descendants. He wants to destroy mankind because they're still using chakra as a weapon a thousand years after Kaguya's defeat.
    Not sure if/how does this relate to my post since I already know that.

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