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    Blackjack612's Review of Naruto 529: Golden Bonds

    Naruto Ch. 529 Golden Bonds
    *This review uses images credited to mangastream and binktopia.


    With all the fun they're having, one could forget that there's a war going on.

    After a noticeably long absence, Naruto returns to his titular manga. It’s only a brief appearance, but it’s nice to be reminded that the main character is still kicking around. This week, we open upon Bee and Naruto as Naruto continues to train. Bee thinks that Naruto is close to figuring out the tailed beast bomb, but Naruto is having trouble concentrating because he can sense a disturbance in the force. What’s interesting here is that Naruto and Kinkaku both possess kyuubi chakra acquired at different times in the history of the kyuubi, but Naruto is able to sense that someone else is tapping into the same energy. Whether or not he figures out the source of the disturbance and learns about the war remains to be seen.


    The Original Jinchuriki

    Meanwhile, Darui is looking a little haggard from using the Seven Star Sword and Crimson Gourd and jokingly tries to apologize to Kyuubinkaku (as he shall be referred to in the rest of this review). Kyuubinkaku will not be appeased and begins to rage against First Division. His particular demon fox cloak forms five miniature tails and one huge tail that can be used to physically attack opponents. First Division makes Kyuubinkaku a priority as various shinobi including Choza step up to bat. Choza grapples the beast barehanded, though, and we know that kyuubi chakra is toxic upon physical contact. At this point, an elderly cloud shinobi gives his allies some information he probably should have divulged earlier. Back before Madara tamed the demon fox, the Hidden Cloud made a play for possession of the bijuu and as a result, the Kin-Gin brothers were swallowed whole by the fox. So it seems that the story we were presented about how the brothers acquired their power contained more truth than myth. This anecdote also reveals that the Hidden Cloud has been an ambitious village from the beginning, and although they would later turn traitor, Kinkaku and Ginkaku once took up extremely dangerous missions on behalf of the village. Could this be a case of power corrupting the brothers? Or perhaps in devouring such evil and unfiltered chakra, they were fundamentally changed. But I’m getting ahead of myself.


    Fox...the chicken of the ninja world.

    As the First Division front line starts to panic, intel is passed onto Shinobi HQ. News of the new developments surprises Tsunade, even though she is the leader of the village most intricately connected to the Kyuubi. It’s here that the Raikage reveals that Kinkaku and Ginkaku survived those two weeks in the fox’s stomach by feasting upon its meat, eventually forcing it to throw them back up. This legendary feat inspired others to repeat their actions, but no other person has gained bijuu chakra this way, since bijuu chakra is deadly when consumed. The Raikage posits that the reason Kinkaku and Ginkaku accomplished such a feat is that they’re probably distantly related to the Sage of the Six Paths himself. At this point, the Raikage believes the best option to contain Kyuubinkaku is to seal him with the fifth shinobi treasure. And it’s a good thing they possess a tool capable of sealing this beast, because Kyuubinkaku’s cloak has masked the rope needed to make Darui’s weapon’s work.

    Instantly proving wrong my theory from last week, the fifth shinobi treasure is the Amber Purifying Pot that is used by the Hidden Cloud to host the eight-tails. Some readers predicted this, and if you saw it coming, congratulations! The pot works similar to the other treasures, but with fewer requirements. All that’s required for sealing is to call out to your target and if he responds, then he becomes sealed within the pot. As a weapon, it is quite a trump card, but that it wasn’t brought out until now implies there is a limit to how many individuals can be sealed within it. If it only has a capacity of one entity, then it makes sense to save the pot for a particularly troublesome revived ninja. Otherwise, it would make quick work of Edo Tensei. Furthermore, the Raikage reveals that Kinkaku and Ginkaku stole the treasures when they defected from the village and the pot was the only one the Hidden Cloud was able to recover.

    Shikaku points out that First Division needs relief now and can’t wait for the item to be delivered. Luckily, the Raikage’s secretary is skilled in using transfer techniques so that’s not a problem. The problem is that Kinkaku once possessed the five treasures, therefore he should know how to counter them, which is where Shikaku steps in. His plan is to revive the Ino Shika Cho formation and to do so he communicates with Ino, Shikamaru, and Choji through Inoichi’s technique.


    But not that kind of purifying pot

    While Shikaku is prepping his strategy, First Division is having a hard time handling Kyuubinkaku. The battlefield is being demolished and it reminds me of the damage Naruto did to the landscape when he fought Sasuke in Kyuubi form. First Division is being outclassed by a lone shinobi, and Kyuubinkaku knows that Darui is trying to seal him in the pot. He makes the smart decision and tries to take Darui out when he realizes the allied plan. And he would have succeded but not for Darui’s fellow general, Kitsuchi, and his earth technique taijutsu. And with Kitsuchi arrives Second Division, ready to support the dwindling First Division. Team Asuma is going to be the lynchpin of Shikaku’s plan, but each of the members is nervous going up against the legends that defeated even the Nidaime Hokage. Shikaku let’s the kids in on a secret. Legends are often exaggerated after the fact and it’s never truly long before someone outdoes the original and a new legend is born, tying in once again to the theme of new generations supplanting older generations.


    A new legend is born!

    Comforted by Shikaku’s wise words and with their former teacher watching, Team Asuma begins to forge a legend for the new age. Darui starts things off by ordering all available shinobi to barrage Kyuubinkaku with kunai, yet Kyuubinkaku isn’t impressed by these third rate or ‘copper plated’ ninja. After all, he is a Kage level individual who once stood toe to toe with giants. Choji uses the momentary distraction of the barrage to charge at the enemy, though Kyuubinkaku tosses him away easily enough. But this too is reavealed to be a faint, as Shikamaru successfully uses his Shadow Mimic technique. It doesn’t hold for long against the force of the kyuubi’s chakra, but it holds long enough for Ino to cast Mind-Body Switch. After that, Ino simply responds to Darui, Darui seals Kyuubinkaku, and Ino bails from the body before it is sealed.


    This year, they're giving out Copper for first place.

    And so the battle with Kinkaku and Ginkaku comes to a close. Both brothers were talented shinobi with first rate abilities and chakra, but as Darui points out, copper can be more valuable than a gold coin if you collect enough of it. And Team Asuma demonstrated excellent timing and teamwork in a desperate situation on the battlefield. Surely their legend is growing. Three kids were able to defeat two Akatsuki members with intelligence (and a little help) and a jinchuriki with teamwork. And as promised, Darui has stripped away that gold plating of pride the brothers were so proud of.

    Impressions

    This chapter was great. There was a lot of plot momentum, a peek at the main character, and good bits of action and strategy. I’ll admit the battle with Kin-Gin was shorter than I was expecting it to be, but for such a lean fight, there was little to no filler. Kishimoto did a great job of conveying how quickly First Division became desperate against a jinchuriki. It’ll be interesting to see how the allied shinobi handle the remaining former jinchuriki given that there are quite a few left. I also think it’s fitting that the battle was won not through brute strength, but with intelligence, which is the key to true victory on the battlefield. In addition, the characterizations continued to be excellent. and Shikaku gave us a nice thematic cap to the last few chapters.

    That said, this chapter was fool of information concerning the larger mythology of the series and I'd like to take a moment to talk about how this chapter shapes the history of the ninja world. What we know know is that:
    • At some point early on in the formation of the Hidden Cloud, the village tried to attain the kyuubi. As a result, Kinkaku and Ginkaku absorbed the chakra of the bijuu through devouring its innards, a feat which remains unrepeated. The Hidden Cloud also collected the five shinobi treasures said to have belonged to the Sage of the Six Paths.
    • Konoha then took possession of the Kyuubi with Madara Uchiha initially taming the beast, but after a falling out with Konoha, Senju Hashirama’s wife served as its vessel.
    • Kinkaku and Ginkaku defected from the Hidden Cloud, taking with them the five shinobi treasures, of which only the Amber Purifying Pot was recovered.
    • The Nidaime Hokage attempted to enter into a formal alliance (possibly to help end the First Shinobi World War) with the Nidaime Raikage, but the Kin-Gin brothers staged a coup. In fact, this seems likely, since a country is extremely vulnerable during a time of war making the possibility of a coup easier.
    • The Nidaime Hokage, Tobirama Senju, died during the First Shinobi World War, allowing his team to flee as he faced a force known as Team Kinkaku. Kinkaku is known to have defeated the Second Hokage, leaving him near death at least. Thus, we can conclude these incidents are the same.

    The preceding information actually clarifies a few inquiries from past chapters. From this we know how Kinkaku and Ginkaku came to be summoned with four of the five treasures. If they were hidden by the brothers before they died, then Kabuto would have no trouble learning their whereabouts with Edo Tensei. It also explains why the brothers are so reviled in the Hidden Cloud. It isn’t just that the brothers attempted a coup. It’s that they did so at the cost of prolonging a war that had devastated the five nations. Also, both brothers could use the demon fox cloak, and Kinkaku was known to have used in battle before, presumably after Ginkaku’s defeat (according to Kakazu). In that case, then it becomes clearer why Tobirama Senju might have developed Edo Tensei. His deceased, elder brother Hashirama was one of two individuals able to tame the bijuu at the time, and the Hidden Cloud had two shinobi possessing Kyuubi chakra. If he ever needed to stop either in battle, then his best bet would be to revive his brother and have Hashirama deal with the Kyuubi’s chakra. In this context, while the techniques still seems dubious, it also seems like a necessity.

    And let’s consider Kinkaku and Ginkaku. Naruto hosts the Kyuubi, but only the beast’s Yin chakra (or was it Yang). When they devoured the Kyuubi’s meat, the brothers are likely to have absorbed completely unfiltered chakra. They survived a situation where death was all but certain and raged for two whole weeks. Two weeks of nothing but thrashing and eating Kyuubi meat. It is easy to see how they would be considered the two bright lights of the Hidden Cloud after this. But afterwords, Konoha took possession of the Kyuubi, trumping their own feat. Furthermore, their own village was prepared to enter into a peace treaty with the very same nation. What had that sacrifice been for? They had thrown themselves into capturing the Kyuubi and almost lost their lives in the process. By all rights, they should have died after eating the meat of the fox. Now, their enemies possessed the Kyuubi, and their own village was ready to simply accept this. From this perspective, it’s easy to understand how warriors as vain as Kinkaku and Ginakau might betray their village and Kage. And there is no telling how hosting such unfiltered evil chakra changes a person. Despicable they may be, but they are not beyond the ability to be empathized with. They had their positive qualities. After all, as brothers they cared deeply for each other.

    Rating: 5 out of 5

    Predictions

    Last week I predicted that Kyuubinkaku would rage and that the shinobi army would have to pull out all the stops to contain him, although my prediction for how he would be stopped was wrong. We also didn’t see the former jinchuriki, and my theory about the remaining shinobi treasure was incorrect.

    What might we see next week? I think that now would be the perfect time to bring Asuma into focus since his team has demonstrated their growth since his death. Though, I doubt his soul would be released as a result of the encounter. From there it could go many directions. Third Division is still fighting the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist and shinobi with kekkai genkai. Notable revived shinobi are still fighting First Division. The revived bijuu have yet to be seen. The former Kage should be converging upon Gaara. And there’s Black Zetsu. What I want to see is Dan and maybe have his significance explained. I think what we will see is the beginning of a conflict with the former Kage and/or Black Zetsu.

    As always, I’d like to thank everyone who’s been reading my reviews and especially thank everyone who’s given me suggestions. See you next week

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    Re: Blackjack612's Review of Naruto 529: Golden Bonds

    nice review,and you have done it quickly .
    I have to tell you just a thing,I think you are wrong in a point:you "beg" naruto sensed kinkaku in his form too,but I believe he sensed that someone else he knows is coming there,it would be that Itachi and nagato(on itachi's back) are going to naruto and bee,what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattiaildivino View Post
    nice review,and you have done it quickly .
    I have to tell you just a thing,I think you are wrong in a point:you "beg" naruto sensed kinkaku in his form too,but I believe he sensed that someone else he knows is coming there,it would be that Itachi and nagato(on itachi's back) are going to naruto and bee,what do you think?
    I guess we'll just have to see. The timing of the scene with Naruto would imply he sensed Kinkaku, but that could very well be a misdirect and he could instead be sensing someone else headed to his location to collect the bijuu.

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    Very nice review blackjack,
    I have to say i specially like the part where you empathize with Kin/Gin trying to understand their background story and give it a very frsh perspective.
    I think the question of what naruto sensed have many possible answers:
    -he sensed kinkaku.
    -he sensed the war in general.
    -some enemy is approaching him.
    I'm leaning towards the second choice but whichever is right the fact is that Naruto is near the phase where he will particpate in the war by himself , probably he'll join darui's battle , it seems it will be the main concentration now.
    but i gotta love how kishimoto builds up his story, he dropped the name kinkaku in danzo's flashback , then showed the fifth weapon n motoi's flashback then surprisingly tied all this together , now i have a feeling that all of this story was just a build up for something bigger but we gotta see that later.
    I agree with you totally about the history timeline you added but i have to add that Madara probably tamed the Kyuubi and controlled it in the time gap when he left the village , then returned to attack it with the kyuubi , i always wondered why did he leave the returned to attack the village? why didn't he attack it directly with kyuubi without this gap? but i guess i got my answer now, and also it adds to the fact that Madara taming the kyuubyi was something unprecedented , not Shodaime hokage or kumo or any other was able to tame it , which add much hype to the kyuubi and uzumaki's to be able to seal it completely.
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    Re: Blackjack612's Review of Naruto 529: Golden Bonds

    Good job man, but I dont htink that Second Hokage wanted to summon the First to fight the Kin Gin brothers, as his brothers I think he wanted for Hashirama to rest in peace. He probably developed that jutsu to reveal the secrets of the past and history, but still I cant understand why Hokage would develop such jutsu - that is something ridikulous he needed to sacrifice somebody, and of course we know how he valued any shinobis life in th village.

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    To me it makes perfect sense why the KinGin Bro's survive being eating by the 9 tail fox. As showcased by Naruto, the Kyuubi chakra has a huge life force therefore KinGin bro eating the innards makes perfect sense to me. We know that Naruto Chakra cloak heals wounds and it might be a unique quality of the Kyuubi chakra since eating the Hachibi's flesh doesn't produce the same result.

    Nice review BJ, for all those guys thinking that the long tail was heading to Naruto really got it wrong but hey it was just a prediction.

    Also a nice twist and fan service from Kishi showing Naruto. Naruto sensing the evil chakra this far was cool and raised his suspicion that something is wrong. But all of the sudden if he tries to sense it again, this evil chakra feeling is all gone so he will just ignore it and continue to focus on his almost completed training with the Bijuu ball. We might also see a sneak pic of Sasuke next chapter but It won't make any sense right now.

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    Re: Blackjack612's Review of Naruto 529: Golden Bonds

    Hi there, thanks for the great review!...I'd like to offer my thoughts on the chapter as well...

    I think that by introducing Naruto in this chapter, he will start to slowly include him in the war, but I wouldn't be surprised if he would miss the next chapter, but show Sasuke instead...I think that before including them he will finish setting up the later stages of this war, which looks more and more like just one huuuge battle...

    So even if Asuma and Shikamaru are said to be the next chapter, I'm pretty sure that we will see Gaara's location as well...and Sasuke or Naruto...
    Because I think that Kishimoto is planning the following...
    He will slowly introduce Naruto and Sasuke into the war, but he will refrain from putting them in action...a key point will be the moment when Kabuto will choose to kill the personalities of the his zombies, at least the ones that are already facing the Alliance in battle...when that happens, the main characters will be ready to be included either in the war, either in side plots like the one with the Daimyous or maybe an attack on HQ...

    That's it for the predictions...
    I don't really see any point for Naruto being in this chapter, other than this, that he will slowly be included in the war...I'm pretty skeptical about a direct attack on HQ or the island, and I think he just sensed the evil intent Kinkaku oozed out...Naruto is by sea, Kinkaku is by sea and the sea is a pretty good medium to transmit things in fictional works...

    The rest of the chapter...it seemed a bit rushed to me...the reinforcements showed up too soon IMO...there wasn't enough time to show that Kinkaku is indeed a menace...so in the end the Ino-Shika-Chou combo loses importance in my eyes...

    That's why probably the emotional part of the chapter seems a bit cheap as well...while I liked Inoichi's speech and it reminded me of the Will of Fire, Darui seemed totally out of place, so that's why I think this chapter should be read in bundle with the last one, because of Darui...

    The last thing I'd like to say is that it seems like all these Edo Tensei shinobi are a bit weak, or at least I think us fans overhyped the entire situation...I mean Madara did make a plan without Kabuto...that's why I think that Kishimoto rushes towards the battles that will involve more powerful shinobi, or at least contain some important personal drama...but I don't think that's a reason good enough to rush chapters...

    Thanks again!Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by benelori View Post
    The rest of the chapter...it seemed a bit rushed to me...the reinforcements showed up too soon IMO...there wasn't enough time to show that Kinkaku is indeed a menace...so in the end the Ino-Shika-Chou combo loses importance in my eyes...

    That's why probably the emotional part of the chapter seems a bit cheap as well...while I liked Inoichi's speech and it reminded me of the Will of Fire, Darui seemed totally out of place, so that's why I think this chapter should be read in bundle with the last one, because of Darui...

    The last thing I'd like to say is that it seems like all these Edo Tensei shinobi are a bit weak, or at least I think us fans overhyped the entire situation...I mean Madara did make a plan without Kabuto...that's why I think that Kishimoto rushes towards the battles that will involve more powerful shinobi, or at least contain some important personal drama...but I don't think that's a reason good enough to rush chapters...
    I too would have liked for the battle against Kinkaku to have taken a bit longer or for more of the devastation to be shown, but typically, battles that involved Naruto in jinchuriki mode were relatively fast and rushed as well, at least in my opinion. Specifically, I'm thinking back to the flashback to Minato facing Madara and the Nine-tails. That flashback had more meat to it's bones than this chapter, but it still came off as rushed and I think that has to do with the type of enemy. We all know that the Nine-tails or a fox-cloaked jinchuriki can do really serious damage, so long drawn out fights don't make much sense because an enemy that strong has to be taken out very quickly. Not many shinobi can really go the distance with a jinchuriki because not many people can match a jinchuriki's chakra capacity.

    So, while I wished there had been more of this battle shown, the rushed pace I think actually enhanced the mood of the battle because the reactions of all the shinobi characters was panicked and frantic. Hopefully when this gets animated, the studio will choose to show more of this battle specifically because I would love to see Kinkaku just tearing through the shinobi forces before they get hold of the Amber Pot.

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