well, the 2nd and 4th squad VC's also got 1hkoed. But then again, 2nd squad VC is a fatass and probably awful in combat, and 4th squad is not exactly a combat squad, so not an amazing showing for 1st squad VC lol. But the captains all have their own reason for choosing their VC, could be for their intelligence, valuability as an assistant, etc. not just combat skill.
Althoug the 2 of them may not be weak, they are among one of the weakest Captains, I do think Yama picked Sasakibe to be his vice for a reason, the only reason he got one hit Ko'ed by ichigo was because, Ichigio pwned Omaeda, this shocked Sasakibe and let his guard down, so we do not know the strenght of his Zanpakuto, I would say he's more powerful than some Vice-Captains.
Anyone who gets taken out by a fist from Ichigo does not deserve to be equal to any Captain and most VCs. You guys are going purely on the fact that the VC you choose has to be strong. VCs are chosen for a number of reasons not just because of strength. Look at Nemu, Yachiru, Omaeda,Hinamori, and (possibly) Nanoa.
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Both Nemu and Yachiru are strong, and like I said Sasakibe was caught of guard.
Momo is also pretty strong, or at least she seems relatively capable. we know her kido skills are top notch, and her shikai is quite something! but she's still an annoying little...err...anyways...
but about Hitsugaya, i must disagree. judging from what we've seen, i would actually place him as THE weakest current captain. he may be a prodigy among other shinigami of his own age, but among the rest of the captains, he's still the small fry.
i won't go into details or explanation, as that would be off topic.
Mayuri certainly isn't weak. well, he may be weak, raw power and fighting skill wise, but his intelligence and creepy inventions and tactics make him dangerous and deadly.
Being a captain makes it easy for you to absolutely show up those weaker than you, unless your like Hitsugaya, who seems to be serious about any situation. BUt like I said, Ichigo could take them out with just a fist becuase he knows Shunpo, Renji can't use shunpo,a nd most (if not all, I think that matsumoto might have used shunpo) VCs don't know shunpo. People like byakuya have a particularly easy time showing up those weaker than them, his shikai will cut a man up to shreds (read, ganju), and his kidou without enchantment makes him seem super strong to those weaker than him.
So basically, my point is that people of captain levels can make those weaker than them look absolutely helpless, they are just on that different a level.
Anyways, still waiting anxiously for Ikkaku's fight to be over (I'm predicting he will go next since we have already seeen him in battle a bunch) so we can get to the juicy ones, kira and hisagi.
If izuru slashes his enemy, does the entire body of his enemy doubles his weight or just the limb he slashed?
Find proof that Nemu and Yachiru have fought anyone at VC level or above equally. Until then thats just speculation pure and simple. Sasakibe on the other hand has been Ko'ed by a one handed Ichigo. That doesn't on any level scream captain level. That proves pure and simple that he doesn't have Captain Level Strength or Stamina.
As for Momo as much as I like that crazy girl well Aizen said it himself that he chose her only because she was useful to him. She got pimp slapped by Hitsugaya. She's defintely not VC level.
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Yachiru - She may not have fought anyone but you can tell her Reitsu while Ichigo and Kenpaichi are fighting when that messenger comes, you could see her reitsu in the shape of a Pink cat, foreshadowing her Shikai.
Nemu - She kicked Ishida's ass(It could have been a filler though I'm not sure) who is at least Vice-Captain level, I can easily be proved wrong here, if it was a filler.
Momo - She is Vice-Captain level as noted by Toushiro "With much hard work" just to become a Vice-Captain, that was before Aizen chose her.
Sasakibe - Your also forgetting that Ichigo is at Captain level, and I wasn't the one who said Sasakibe was Captain level, I just said he was more powerful than other Vice-Captains, none of the Vice Captains could have beaten Ichigo at that time.
So, who do y'lall think will have the last fight? I think it's gonna be hisagi because we havn't seen his shikai before, and I just have a hunch that he is more powerful than he seems (from being beaten by Yumi's shikai so easily). I mean, look at it, everybody with ichigo's hair so far has been powerful, Ichigo is obviously powerful, shiba kaien was a prodigy of his times as kukaku said, and hisagi was also a prodigy at the shinigami academy, i just have a feeling that he'll be powerful.
It seems that Kubo-san has planned the plot very carefully this time.
I mean,look at how the battle is going!Each Shinigami is locked in combat with the perfect opponent that they are suited to defeat,at least it seems that way,it's like the Baragan's 'Four Dragons' are having their strengths,which are usually effective,nullified by Yamamoto's 'Skilled Fighters'.Though Hisagi seems to have some trouble with his opponent,I think this battle will soon be over.
I dont think hisagi is having trouble with his oponent so far. His oponent is simply fighting at the standard levels diferent seats have, with the last so far being VC level, so worst case scenario here is that he fights at hisagi's level (personaly I think hisagi is stronger than a regular VC but not nearly as powerfull as a captain).
Hisagi has shown in the past how good he is at melee combat, seeing how he easily handled yumuchika until he released his zanpakutou.
I think the battle will go like this: Arranca fights at VC level but hisagi is still a little stronger than him, later on arrancar releases his zampakutou and hisagi is overpowered. Finaly hisagi releases his sword uses his special ability and wins the fight.