Is Danzou good or evil!?
He's doing what he think is best to bring peace to Konoha, right!?
But then is Pain evil!?
He's doing what he think is best to bring peace in the whole world...
In his heart, he wants peace... he think about the others and want peace for everyone...
So what is being evil!? Thinking only about himself?!
Then the true evil are people like Orochimaru and Kakuzu, who wants power for themselves only.
As for Sasuke, he wants power, by any means, but does he want the power for himself?! Not really, he wants it to avenge his family and his brother...
Is that evil!? Well, not too sure about it...
IMO, the question about Good and Evil is far from being clear in this manga.
Unless you want to go in this way :
Those with Naruto = Good
Those against Naruto = Evil
That's the safest way since Naruto is the Good incarnated
This is a great analogy, actually. The arsonist is responsible for the circumstances that caused the firefighters to heroically decide to save people, but I think the firefighters are heroes who sacrificed their lives trying to save would-be victims rather than the victims themselves.
If Madara said "I killed the fourth hokage, how many can say they killed a hokage?" I would think that people would say that he did not and that the fourth sacrificed himself to stop Madara from killing others.
I am going to drop this now in order to get back on topic. Thanks for the exchange Bean.
Last edited by jdw; February 12, 2009 at 02:51 PM.
To me there's a potential testimony of how great Minato really was if Madara fought Minato with the Kyuubi on his side. Though thinking about this I doubt this, because Gamabunta would have been of witness, he could have recognised Madara I'm sure and would report to Jiraiya, or it could be Bunta didn't see or knew Madara was of great importance. Then again to be able to hold your own against a full powered Kyuubi speaks volumes for Minato Namikaze anyway.
Following your logic all the biggest bastard of the universe good be good guy... Hey we killed an entire nation but we tought that was for the best of all...
People are not good because they think they do the right thing.
You would definately be refused in the police academy dude :P
edit: as for sasuke, he hasn't really done anything evil to the extent that pein has done, but he has, barely, stepped to the dark side by "capturing" the hachibi (granted he actually didn't, but he doesn't know that he didn't). However, that little flashback to his konoha buddies gives me the feeling that he did it for them...still, do the means justify the end? Up until that point though, he wasn't doing anything evil. He spared people's lives and didn't kill unjustly. Bah...let's move on.
Last edited by bean; February 12, 2009 at 02:57 PM.
Depends on point of view. Hitler was seen as a saviour to many. While those not German begged to differ. While looking at it, it's hard to see who would be in favour for Pain's ideal, which could potentially destroy the world, unless that person was guranteed his or her's safety. However Danzou is more similar to Hitler, where some who are fully Pro-Konoha would support actions taken by Danzou.
He killed an entire clan because he though that was the best thing to do for the peace.
... I'm not against you guys, I'm just saying that "criminal" and "evil" is not the same thing. Being evil is having a "black heart" and thinking only of himself, wanting to rule the world with chaos and things like that.
IMO, Pain isn't that evil. His quest for peace is the proof that he doesn't have a "black heart".
Danzou is more evil than Pain, because he wants Konoha to be the strongest and that's a quest for power.