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1st Ninja war :
1st Hokage time: Since we know that there was a lot of war between the clans and that the Senju clans solved the wars.
2nd Ninja war :
Jiraiya time: Since we saw the 3 sannins against Hanzou and the Mist Country.
3rd Ninja war :
Minato time: Since it was said in Kakashi Gaiden. Konoha was fighting against the Rock Country.
4th Ninja war :
Naruto time : A ninja war to come, probably caused by Danzou's incompetence as the Hokage.
So, to answer your question, IMO, the 2nd war would have happen when Jiraiya was something like 20 (I'm guessing), so 30 years before Naruto's storyline (in which Jiraiya has 50 years old).
But then... there's also this war against the Wind Country that Chiyo talked about. According to her, the White Fang killed her son during that war.
Could it be that Konoha was fighting both the Mist Country (Hanzou against the Sannins) and the Wind Country (White Fang against Chiyo's son) at the same time, during the 2nd great war?!
My guess : Yes.
Last edited by THM Nindo; February 23, 2009 at 05:30 PM.
Sasori died at age 35, which means he was born in 19 BKA. When his parents died he looked like he was 5 years old. That means that if it really was Kakashi's dad, that killed Sasori's father, it was around 14 BKA.
Jiraiya was 24 in that year. It fits quite well and it seems likely that the conflicts were within the same war.
i'm assuming that BKA means Before Kyubi Attack. if not, please correct me. also, sasori's parent's deaths coincide with the third war's timing (being about 10 years before the start of the series). 35 - 16 = 19 - 10 = 9. so yeah, he was probably around 8 years old when his parents were killed. thanks for your help, but i think that you got a bit confused with the calculations.
Obito was the same age as Kakashi(born 14BKA) and died at age 13. This puts Kakashi Gaiden (and thus the 3rd war) in 1BKA. Sasori is five years older than Kakashi (that makes him 18 years old during the third war).
While the third could have been a war lasting over more than ten years, I guess it's more plausible that the second war happend sometime around 14BKA. Ten years before the start of the third.
Hanzo was part of Rain, fighting ALL sides of Earth, Wind, and Fire, Homemade Ninja.
I think it was the rain and sand against the leaf.
The rain isn't a big village and as stated the sand isn't a powerful country cause of the fire lord.
As we may know the leaf posessed kohana's white fang the 3rd when he was at his prime, the 3 saninn, Ino Shika Cho, against Hanzo and the kazikage.
The anime filler with Jiraya screwed up the timeline I had in my head so it most likely appears that...
1st Ninja war = Was the ongoing conflict that led to Uchiha + Senju alliance and ended the war
2nd Ninja war = Must be the war where Kakuza failed to assassinate Hashrima and was imprisoned in the Waterfall village
3rd Ninja war = Sannin dubbed by Hanzou , and later on Minato led Obito Kakashi and Rin into the Land of Grass
That timeline wise would be about...
1st Ninja war around 60+ years ago
2nd Ninja war around 50 years ago
3rd Ninja war around 30 - 17 years ago
According to Yahiko and Nagato's entry in the 3rd databook, Yahiko, Konan and Nagato lost their parents in the second shinobi world war. We can suppose Nagato and co. were about 20 when they were betrayed by Hanzou and about 35 now (give or take a few years).
Dan died in the second shinobi world war, according to Kunugi's entry (the guy who tried to make Tsunade understand that her man was dead).
If we suppose Dan was the same age as the legendary sannin, he would have died in 11 BKA. Tsunade's age (54) - Naruto's age (16) - Dan's age at the moment of his death (27) = 11. He may be a bit older, so let's add 5 years, he should have died between -11 to -16, around 10 years before the third world war. We can also suppose Dan's death occurred while Jiraiya was away training Nagato and co. because Tsunade became unable to fight after Dan's death but fought against Hanzou before he named them legendary sannin.
(Note: There may be spoilers in this, if you haven't read the manga)
Okay, I see that this was asked a long time ago, but I'm still going to reply, since it still confuses me, as well.
I've done the math (hopefully correctly), and it tells me that Jiraiya (along with Tsunade and Orochimaru) were 24 years old when Kakashi was born, and 26 years old when they meet Nagato/Pain. Nagato, at the time, was 7. So, the Sannin were 26 when they fight Hanzo, and gain the title of Sannin. For those who are not aware, this is also the war Sakumo Hatake (Kakashi Hatake's father) became known as Konoha's White Fang, and gained his incredible fame. It's also the war Sakumo would kill Sasori's parent's. Also, both Nawaki and Dan would die, in that order. And, apparently, Minato was 24 when he died, which would make him only ten years older than Kakashi. This means Minato was 12 when the Sannin were 26, and when they fought Hanzo.
All of this would work out perfectly, if not for one thing; the First Great Shinobi World War occured 20 years before the second. And even then, everything would work fine, but (now) we know that Hashirama spoiled Tsunade as a child. We also know that Hashirama died before the first war. We can guess that he died around when Tsunade was around 2-4 (by the way she looked from the flashbacks from the manga). Then, the first war would have to have began soon after, and then taken place for only a small amount of time (which, in my opinion, isn't likely, when it's said that the countries were utterly devastated because of this war). Then, 20 years has to go by, and then the second war lasts from, at the very least, a year, since Dan (Tsunade's lover) died when he was 27, and I'm guessing that they were roughly the same age. There's just too much going on to actually happen within the amount of years we are given.
As for the Third war, if we look at the age of Obito in Kakashi Gaiden, which is 13, and how he's the same age as Kakashi, we can determine the time fairly easily. On the wiki, it says the third was started more than ten years before the start of canon Naruto, making Kakashi 16, and if Kakashi Gaiden takes place when he's 13, there's at least 13 years before the start of canon before the war started.
Please, if anyone knows this any better than I do, please let me know.
(Basically, the second war was fought when the Sannin were 26, and it started 20 years after the first war. The third war was fought when Kakashi was 13. Don't forget that Minato died when he was 24, so you could use that to better figure out the math and time.)