Kurosaki takes it hands down!!!
Hitsu takes it hands down!!!
first off, i don't know if this is the right place to create this thread or if the nature of this thread is even allowed. i would like to apologize in advance to mangahelpers if this isn't the right place to create it or the creation of this (type of) thread is not allowed.
now as the title suggests this is a fictional (for now..... who knows!!!) battle of who would win in an all out war between these two characters. the reason i'm actually making this thread is that personally i think hitsu's "growth" in the amount of time that has passed since he was recalled from Karakura is utterly absurd. yet he has managed to beat the third espada released. the discussion about her water fueling his power is void since halibel has been shown to control ne state of water just like hitsu can control ne form of ice. and whether logic is applicable to bleach i'll leave for another thread/discussion. him being a prodigy should not be an excuse for such an absurd power up from barely being able to beat fraccion to beating the third espada released without so much as breaking a sweat.
now we have two characters who have been able to beat the no 4 and 3 espada like it was nothing. the assumption here of course is that haliboob is dead. we'll just have to wait and c. shirosaki as he was manifested when ichigo got a hole blown in him was a monster in a whole new league. i mean he literally blew ulqui to pieces like he was nothing.
hitsu beat halibel like she was nothing either. and here is where it starts. hitsu beating haliboob is like saying he is stronger than shirosaki because as we all know it was ulqui who stated that the espada r ranked by power.
so who do you think would win in a battle between shirosaki as he was against ulqui going all out or hitsu who beat haliboob like she didn't even matter???
Hollow ichigo takes this IMO.... Also hitsugaya has not won against harribel IMO considering she could still break out and counterattack using the humidity he so kindly provided.
Ice means nothing to Arrancars unless said Ice shatters, Grimjaw said it clearly freezing the top layer of his skin is worthless, and Hollow Ichigo II can SURE as HELL destroy the Ice kid, Hollow Ichigo II is not JUST fast as hell, but also BRUTAL, he won't give hitsugaya a second to breath or to prepare anything, so YEAH Hollow Ichigo II wins easily.
Shirosaki. The only one who will ever defeat him once and for all is Ichigo himself. But when Shirosaki or any semblance of him comes out, count on him winning no matter who it is he's up against. Hitsugaya, Aizen, the devil, doesn't matter.
I wholeheartedly agree with Doombot on Hitsu winning solely on fanservice. So many hitsu fans even though he's never shown us anything impressive until just the last chapter with his "ice from the heavens"....
I consider Hitsu roughly analogus to Hinata in the Naruto manga, not particularly strong, not one of the main characters (well, he's had more page time than most captains, but not nearly as much as renji, rukia, ishida, orhime, or chad), yet has a huge fanbase, the fact that Hitsu is like #1 in the popularity polls (IIRC) proves that...
Anyways, away from the Hitsu fan hating (fan hating, not hitsu hating). TBH. Nothing I've seen from hitsu has been very impressive besides POSSIBLY the ice from the heavens, we will find out how impressive the ice from the heavens is when we see if Halibel is truly defeated. Anyhow, let's see what he's done. He got played by Gin, he got raped by Aizen (moot poiint since most shinigami would too, but just saying...), couldn't beat SHawlong with limited bankai, caught a lucky break with Luppi, his shikai ice attacks were shrugged off by Yammi, and he's fought a tug of war with water/ice against Halibel, he's just lucky that he has this kind of elemental equalizer against Halibel IMHO. What has Ichigo done? He's beaten 6th espada in an all out fight, and was beating Ulquiora unreleased. Then in his super-hollow form, he completely destroyed Ulquiora when in his strongest form.
Unless I see something from Hitsugaya in the upcoming chapters that shows us beating Halibel without just using his elemental equalizer, I can wholeheartedly say that Super-Hollow Ichigo will decimate Hitsu.
That's more than obvious. Shirosaki would rape icebox as if there is no tomorrow. Shirosaki is by far stronger than him. In fact, Hitsugaya has won just a single fight so far.
Ice mirror? No problem... Ichigonator has just to repeat the sequence. Even Hitsugaya's ice grave, the one with flowers, is useless, imho: when the flowers blossom the corpse within the grave remains lifeless. If there is fast regeneration I think the reiatsu taken out by the flowers can regenerate without limit. After the flowers blossom the ice grave breaks and Ichigonator would be free again, if he doesn't break free on his own, of course.
People actually voted hitsugaya? WTH? Seems some people are blinded by their fan-boyism! Don't get me wrong i like hitsugaya but i am also a realist and it should be blatantly obvious that shirosaki (ichigonator) would win this fight.
Secondly I agree with drakend about the popularity thing.
altho i voted ichigonator, aka hollow supersaiyan 2 , i believe that if this escenario was ever publishd by kubo in a light novel away from main story using their real power lvls, kubo would kindly grow hitsugaya an inner hollow who'd transform into a hollow/sacred/ice dragon/white hair who'd eat ichigonator, because altho ichigonator is well godly, hitsugaya is fangirl service godly.
Halibel is not dead. She used a water clone Naruto style and is currently lounging behind hitsu about to use her special move Fairy Tail.
Anyway Berserk ichigo managed to sonido right past Uli. Using this Onepiece of information I believe that the Vagabond that is Hitsugaia would stand more of a chance if he stabbed himself in the heart with a Claymore and wrote his name in to the Death Note.
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Alright, my bad, I musta missed your comment about it not working against the main character.
Anyhow, I agree with you, Hitsu gets basically an automatic advantage in fights just due to his popularity. I voted for Ichigo anyways, in a fight w/o biases and all, I don't think Hitsu could even take on Ichigo in his vizard form, and at most he'd have a slight advantage to non-vizard mask ichigo in bankai.
Who do you guys think would win out of Bankai Ichigo and Histugaya? To me it seems like Hitsu is probably around the 5th espada's level, and the 3rd Espada was holding back a lot.
I think as far as reiastu is concerned Bankai Ichigo and Hitsugaya are on the same level with Ichigo being stronger. I think Ichigo would win because of his speed and the new way he use's Kuro Getsuga. Ichigo could just overwhelm him with him his speed and power.
Last edited by En Yang Ji; July 16, 2009 at 08:28 PM.