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On one hand, Renji has achieved Bankai - however it doesn't appear to be all that powerful (as compared to others). Renji's sword is heavy and can strike with a lot of force behind it, but is quite easy to dodge if you're nimble, like Rukia is. The same goes for his Bankai - if you keep on your toes, you have a fairly good chance of dodging most of the blows. Although, his Shikai means that he can do long-range attacks.
Rukia hasn't achieved Bankai yet, but appears to have a fairly powerful Shikai; she was able to freeze Grimmjow in position, if only for a few minutes. She is also fairly light and nimble, therefore has a better chance of dodging some of Renji's attacks.
Who do you think would win?
Right now I have to say Renji-when the chips are down he's a bankai user and she isnt-she shouldnt eb able to kill him but who knows. She is fast but i dont see her being able to dodge Higa Zekko. I also dont think she could evade or block Hokotsu Taihou. And if he can really do Higga Zekkou in bankai like he did in the filler shed be toast...but with that said I think it would be close now and if she gets bankai she would be by far the supperior shinigami. At least she has an espada kill under her belt
Let's see if this makes sense:
I think Rukia is a better fighter, but Renji is more powerful.
By better fighter I mean:
1. She's probably quicker, lighter, more nimble, like you said.
2. Her zanpakutou has several abilities
3. She seems to be better at Kidou, and we know she uses it a lot as part of her fighting style
But Renji would probably win anyway, because he has a huge bankai.
But renji would stilll win unless she gets a bankai lol
Renji has bankai. If he didn't I don't think Renji would have a chance defeating Rukia with his shikai, but thats not the case. Rukia's shikai shouldn't be able to handle a bankai, even if its Renji's.
And yeah,I think we all agree, Rukia caught Aaroniero off guard, and she had to let herself get impaled in order to do so. She had no chance against him in a straightforward fight.
Just bankai is more than enough to make renji get an extremely easy win IMHO. Even without bankai, renji should still be stronger, faster and an overall better swordsman than rukia. Without bankai he could have trouble with rukia's ice type zampakuto but just 1 hit from zabimaru will be more than enough to break appart rukia's frail and tiny body.
renji definately because even byakuya felt it was necessary to use a bankai to beat a bankai because with his personality he wouldnt use it if he didnt need to
i think zaraki aizen and yama is the only one capable of fighting a bankai without using there own
Look at this:
I really doubt byakuya actually needed bankai to defeat a restrained man who could barely control his own power. IMHO byakuya just used it to prove how great the difference in power is between them. Byakuya could have just as easily used his shikai or any hado to blow renji appart.
Without bankai, I'd say it's a close win in favor of rukia. Much more useful shikai, with 3 abiliites (well, only two practical abilities). Plus, she can actually use kidou unlike Renji. Renji still wins in terms of brute strength, but I think Rukia's got the win in speed and kidou, as well as just versatility of zanpakutou abilities.
However, Renji's bankai tips it way too much in his favor though. Yes, it's clusmy and slow, it's basically just his shikai, but like 20x bigger and with a cannon that he can use every once in a while, however, that size difference gives him extra power and reach as well as a more versatile fighting style all around. Rukia is gonna have a hard time getting attacks in on Renji with such a huge bankai chasing her around, not to mention it has decent defense as well.
So my opinion is that in Shikai, Rukia would take a close win, including bankai, she'd lose pretty bad.
I don't think Rukia would even be able to dodge attacks from Renji's bankai easily. Even Byakuya, who had been evading it, got caught up with by it and had to grapple with its teeth a bit.
Anyway, easy win for Byakuya once he uses bankai.
Frankly, I think rukia would have a considerable amount of trouble just with renji's shikai. It has been kinda downplayed due to renji having bankai but it still has quite a bit of power.
bankai bankai bankai!
yes Tite has downplayed bankai's a lot. but they are still very important dammit!
Rukia is like a 3rd seat If I'm right so Renji easily takes the prize!