First off, ability isn't determined by reiatsu level so let's just not waste anytime on that bullshit comment *waves hand in shoo motion at comment*
That's a legitimate question however I wasn't just talking about reiatsu I was talking about physical strength as well; or would u like to claim hitsugaya was "stronger" than halibel or byak and ken "stronger" than yammy or haachi "stronger" than barragan. Gimme a break! Ppl stop putting forward arguments for arguments sake geez
Last edited by Shola; December 09, 2009 at 06:17 PM.
People have missed something. A person with extremely weak reiatsu could never beat anyone at say, Captain level. No matter their ability. Why? Everyone forgets that when two Reiatsu's clash, the weaker one gets hurt. Remember the first Kenpachi fight when Ichigo got his hands busted? Case in point. This also goes to show that not everyone has a giant Reiatsu difference from each other and that Captain-Class is universal and that most of the Captains, except the Seniors possibly, are relativity equal energy/power wise.
Yea but that's all nonsense as it has never happened since. And my saying 1000th seat level reiatsu was just me being fictitious anyone of that level has no business even saying "hello" at this point in the manga
I was there in that discussion :/. I'm hurt u don't remember but it still doesn't sway my opinion. Well lemme ask this at the risk of going off topic. Do u believe reiatsu level is something one is born with or something that grows with the individual? Depending on ur answer u may destroy ur whole argument
I would say reiatsu matters a whole lot.
Why? Simple, everything we see in the manga is pretty much reiatsu.
Barrigan's breath? reiatsu
Aizen's hypnosis? reiatsu
When 2 reiatsu goes against each other, the stronger one wins.
Of course, one can bring up the BS that
1)there are different type of reiatsu...like kudo reiatsu or zanpakto reiatsu
2)there are "more than" reiatsu to bleach.
But..there is no evidence for that
If you have puny reiatsu, you get this treatment and your abilities don't help you.
*scratches head* what's going on with people? Strength only matters in a purely physical fight and as anyone with sense knows those are relegated to ichigo and kenpachi because kubo wants them looking good. If it comes down to a fight based on technique reiatsu level isn't relevant.
Ur post is devoid of any logic. Well not totally really but I mean aizen and barragans are KIDO based they don't have anything to do with their reiatsu level; that was the whole point of the discussion; did u even read it?
Moved, but removed a bit of flaming. >.>; ~igotthegoods
Last edited by igotthegoods; December 09, 2009 at 06:56 PM.
Did you just say:
"but I mean aizen and barragans are KIDO based they don't have anything to do with their reiatsu level"
Kido = a bust of reiatsu
Which would imply any swords with kido ability use reiatsu as their base.
Heck, we even know releasing the sword requires reiatsu, so there is proof right there higher reiatsu = win.
Last edited by Hangender; December 09, 2009 at 07:03 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Yama is an exception and I haven't seen the plot jutsu exhibited ever before so I don't take that into consideration.
Well I'm implying that peoples ability is predetermined at birth and their reiatsu isn't so saying someone has a hax zanpakuto because they have high reiatsu is false because aizen is the only one that fits into that
Last edited by Gran Maestro; December 09, 2009 at 07:14 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
*sigh* I meant kido based zan as opposed to physical zan not whether it had to utilize reiatsu or not. Seriously? :/
The ken fight was plot induced; nothing like that will ever happen again; EVER.
Idk how you say the manga suggests otherwise when technique beats pure power 99 percent of the time except for when that plot failure known as tousen vs ken happened.