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Yo guys, it's about time we got a Kirin thread. Too many great posts about this wonderful technique has been wasted in the wrong threads, so it's time to get an official place to discuss this technique. Everything Kirin goes in here.
Examples of topics to discuss:
- Is Kirin a technique?
- What does it's shape mean, did Sasuke pump chakra into it to manipulate it's shape?
- Kirin's power scale compared to other techniques (Kirin centred, this is a Kirin thread after all)
- Kirin's usefulness in a fight.
There's a ton of other topics to discuss, just keep it related to Kirin. Most of all have fun and personally I hope we'll see this technique again soon. It's been too long since it's been shown.
Last edited by Nuno; May 28, 2010 at 02:17 PM.
Kishi is an idoit because he made us believe that Sauske controlling lightning was something special. In some ways it is, in others it isn't.
Perfect example. We have seen numerous ninja use the suiton and doton jutsu. We have also seen numerous ninja use pre-existing earth and water that they did not create to complete these jutsu. Just take Kisame and Kakashi's water dragon missle exchange in part 1. Both used the lake to the side of them as a source of water instead of creating it.
Now Kirin is slightly different beacuse of how Sasuke actually made the lightning appear with all the fire, and because it's scale was larger than nearly any jutsu we had seen that wasn't the result of a Biju. Kriin is also the first instance where natural lightning is used, so Sasuke was probably the first to ever do that.
Kirin is a hell of an ahievement because of the sheer scale of the jutsu and how fast it works. It's impossible to dodge, and it has enough destructive power to blow a fortress into pieces.
But, I really don't see how it's any different than what we have seen before. Perhaps it's simply harder to harness lightning that it is other elements?
Last edited by Nuno; May 28, 2010 at 02:33 PM.
After trying to argue unsuccessfully that Kirin is not new, now they are trying to argue that Kirin is new but not a jutsu. LOL.
Clearly, Kirin is not a jutsu, it is in fact a loaf of bread.
While we are at that, an electric car is not really a car too since a car must run on oil.
Last edited by Ryr; May 20, 2010 at 02:07 AM.
For Earth and water techniques you infuse and element with your own chakra then turn it into an attack/defence. Kirin on the other hand just guides a lightning bolt to it's target. It's the equivalent of creating the upward line of charge that preceeds lightning strikes in nature. So it doesn't seem like Sasuke infuses the lightning with his chakra.... at least not the way it has been explained.
Having said that, I still think Kirin is a jutsu.... I doubt we'll see it fired off much, if ever again though. Sasuke seems to have moved over to pretty much only using MS jutsu and with the addition of EMS I don't see him pulling out Kirin again. So I don't think we should get too hung up on it .
Kirin isn't a technique that is "created". All sasuke did was used his own lightning manipulation to control the path of the lightning strike.
For example, if i place metal rods to control where lightning strikes the sand, does that mean i am creating lightning?
^ He used chakra to use techniques like the fire techniques to cause the heat which produces the clouds, hence the lightning. He didn't directly "create" teh lightning
He didn't create the actual lightning. He just used it. If i use a kunai, does that mean i created it?
No he didn't create the lightning but what he did cause it to come fourth. It's not like pulling a kunai out of his pocket. What Sasuke did with Kirin was pure Genius.
Last edited by Prince Sasuke; May 20, 2010 at 03:42 PM.
It is a jutsu created by Sasuke, Type S Offensive, Long Range according to the databook..
Is not just a "simple" manipulation, because if it would be that simple Kakashi and any other character could do it.
For example, is like the manipulation that Sasuke did with the Amaterasu using it as a Shield.. (Enton)
Last edited by DanielKnoT; May 20, 2010 at 02:11 PM.
If Sasuke was just guide the lightning it would most likely looked like that:
but all the other lightning bolts would be regrouped into the middle spike.
But while infusing somme of his chakra for shape manipulation, Sasuke allows all the lightning to regroup/gather into one and to also give them the shape of a qilin/kirin:
Just "guiding" wouldn't be enough to give natural lightning such an unnatural shape and maintaining it almost stationnary like that for few seconds. Wich proves that Kirin is indeed a jutsu and not "just" redirecting lightning.
Naruto uses the greatest shape manipulation and adds some nature manipulation on it, whereas Sasuke uses the greatest nature manipulation (and even above some may say) and adds some shape manipulation on it, both are jutsu.
I corrected the images link, let's hope it works now.
Last edited by GyoMasta; June 17, 2010 at 05:29 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost