People who know about One Piece that I've met are divided into either
1) love it like it's the best thing in the world (and rightfully so)
2) hate it even though they haven't even watched a single episode.
Okay I've exaggerated #2 abit but the basic and ONLY argument I've seen for people hating One Piece is that - the main character looks so stupid, it looks so kiddish, crappy plot, I can't possibly sit through even 5 minutes of it, it is that bad. (I got this from quite a few people).
What do you say to those people?
Last edited by NoLimit89; September 27, 2009 at 07:52 PM.
I think most people are turned off by the more "child-like" art. They are used to seeing manga (or anime) like Bleach or other manga that have ,essentially, "badass" looking characters in the normal form. Big muscles, drawn darker, and serious more times than not. They don't really give it a chance.
When you do finally give it a chance and check more than 2 chapters or episodes, you see that One Piece is badass in its own way. The cartoony looking characters make sense in the world Oda creates and you find yourself loving it . This gives it a very original feel.
I have also heard people complain it has no real plot development because nobody dies.
1) That's not true; people die (especially in flashbacks), just not as much as other manga.
2) Oda has stated before that he doesn't like killing characters because he thinks it is a cheap way to create drama. And he does a great job creating drama without killing off characters left and right.
3) And since when has killing people been the only way to advance plot devlopment? One Piece has an amazingly complex plot (as far as shonen manga go) and it controls it to where it doesn't get too overwhelming for the reader.
So finally, to all who say they hate One Piece...you're crazy
The only time it really gets to me is if they don't like One Piece but do like Naruto or Bleach. Some people don't like meat, fine, but who likes meat and not filet mignon? Naruto and Bleach are barely worth being in the same sentence as One Piece.
yea so true^^^ I get those from my cousin's friends. But luckily I'm 20 and they're 16ish and I just give them a smack and be like shut your mouth boy!!! (in a joking manner though, not like actually hurting them)
and it completely shits me when they say no plot, crappy character development and all that jazz especially since I think One Piece has the best plot and character development and even inspirational themes that puts it ahead of not just other manga/anime but most entertainment/television/media in general.
Last edited by NoLimit89; September 27, 2009 at 08:04 PM.
most of them never give it a chance =(
its because of the art, i think
something they dont like about One Piece (which i assume because i hate it sometimes) is the amount of dialogue. I am guessing this is one of the reasons there aren't more translators and scanlators for One Piece.
I don't really see anything wrong with the drawing/art. Its actually better than most mangas out there (only one i can say is better is Vagabond).
i just ignore them, convicing people is just too taxing.
"Yeah, I hate you. STFU" ...
But seriously, it depends on whether or not those people want to hate OP or just simply don't know it. In most cases I'll ask why and what they're reading instead and try to get them read some of the recent chapters which are different from the first 100 ones.
But if they say that out of pure bashing, I keep on ignoring them - maybe I start to bash their favorite manga, but most likely not. Because I think, that this is much more childish than a manga could ever be. Yeah - even manga for a pure children audience. Criticism is fine, though - but most of the ones bashing think they have some kind of right to bloat forums.
actually I do know a few people who actually hates it though.
and I just found out recently that one of them is actually up to date with it. which I can't really wrap my head around - because why would anyone watch it if they hate the show?
he kept saying that the main character was goofy and annoying, the story development is slower than dragonballz and a pain to watch, etc etc ...
particularly his attitude really got to me when he said, "Now, this is compounded by the fact that an arc about comradery ends with constant 1vs1 battles; ruining storyline potency to satisfy shounen convention. How typical.".
yea a total nutjob hater.
I usually say something in the way of "You don't give it a chance/You need to watch all of the episodes until the end of Robin's rescue or even all the episodes" because if you reach that point, you truly realise what One Piece is about. The deep story-line, the connections, the Devil Fruit powers, the justice powers, the hundreds of individual characters (which I think is unique with One Piece). They do not understand the story-line.
For my case, I can say, that I didn't like Katekyo Hitman Reborn after watching the first few episodes, because it seemed weird to me and I didn't know much about it. But my friend suggested how cool it was all the time, so I took the time to read the manga and found it very enjoyable. I think the case here is also for those people, they just don't take time to watch OP.
Personally, a majority of people i know who dislikes one piece all tell me the same thing.
"I gave the first 10 episodes a trial run and it sucked badly."
Well can't stop them, but i can say any good long running anime such as one piece requires "years" worth of character development before getting straight to the point of the story.
IF they are that much in a rush and have no patience, watch Zombie Loan or something.
I used to hate One Piece but now I enjoy it having read it a 2nd time and it's not without it's faults. If someone doesn't like it you might as well just say "well it's not for everyone." If theres one thing that makes me not like One Piece more is the fanboyism(even though that has nothing to do with the manga itself).
I have yet to have a discussion with someone about that lol. I guess that is because people who do not like one piece are not bound to post in the OP forum lol.
It is worth noting that One Piece is far and away the most popular in Japan (at least based on sales), it just gets less respect in America for some reason. Is it like that in other countries as well? Maybe it just has fewer fangirls?
i say, "i hated it too the first time i read through it. i couldn't even stomach three chapters. but then i went back again and fell in love with it. now do the same!" >
that's only for the manga though- i don't really like the anime. the voices of the characters annoy me. xD