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I've never heard of homosexuals attacking someone to defend their lifestyles, not even the biggest jerks I've heard of. Only vice versa, Neonazi blockheads beating up gays for example, or some backwarded countries officially punishing and torturing homosexuals. In those situations I'ld definitly support retaliatation, it's the old story about oppressed minorities and honestly, nobody would shed a tear for a neonazi who by a way of change is the one getting knocked up.
Seriously, the homosexual community seems overly peaceful to me and I certainly agree when they defend themselves against open discriminations, like I often see it on pictures from the USA for example when some especially religious minorities walk onto the street and try spreading hatred.
How do you feel about Bishop Eddie Long of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia Georgia, USA gay sex scandal news?
Never heard of thim, I just found that he seemingly forced (?) three or four men or boys to sex. The usual thing would be that he's just another pedophile in church, as there are loads of them. Pedophiles usually don't make a difference between boys and girls, what has nothing to do with homosexuality again since all what's important to them is that it's about children.
I don't know if he's a homosexual or not - even if he was, just compare numbers: Than he would be one gay rapist amongst hundreds of pedophiles in catholic church...
Actually, now that I mention it - I've never heard of a homosexual rape case. It's either pedophile or heterosexual usually. On the other hand I've never heard of a rape case committed by a women either, although I statistically know that there are some.
Don't forget that the usual type of prison rape is not commited by homosexuals, but heterosexuals who simply choose a male victim because there are no women in their reachability, so that is unrelated to homosexuality as a sexual orientation.
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I just read an article about attacks on gays in Uganda. And I recalled a post was made about some issues regarding violence. This about gays being attacked after being outed.
So I made a thread about that here.
So, if you could please give some examples? So far that's very vague.
It really depends. Amongst the homosexual community, you're admired and popular, even if your work sucks. However, amongst majority, you'd be hated or shunned, probably. There'd be at least a group trying to put you down and even someone trying to kill you. The world is too closeminded.Quote:
It depends. It's not better for the person, but the world is full of idiots that can't accept anything that's not their way. Those same idiots won't hesitate to attack the homosexuals or even kill them, so for safety's sake, it may be better for the homosexuals to keep their true sex hidden.
It's more socially accepted than ages ago, but still not as accepted. In America, there's been reports of attacks on homosexuals, even murders. Few days ago, I read how this group of gang members kidnapped a 17-year old boy and his about 30-year old lover and tortured them, and broke into the older guy's home and robbed his brother. There will be idiots and gangmembers that won't accept anything (irony, gang members? lulz), but there are some areas that accept it. This could be due to the majority of the people being homosexual.
I don't mind homosexuality. It's up to others to live the way they want. Hell, I even support homosexual marriage. Why care? It doesn't affect us. Those that complain about how marriage is a holy union are just being bigoted idiots as heterosexual couples are the ones divorcing. If marriage is a holy union, then why the fuck is the divorce rate high (last I heard anyway)?
I'm not religious nor do I believe in god... which probably is the reason why I don't mind homosexuality or am not close minded to it. Most homophobes use religion as excuse, which means they can't think for themselves or have good reason to explain why they're against homosexuality.
What they say shouldn't be counted as truth... not from a biased site that opposes sexuality.
When did the devil have power to create homosexuals, asexuals, and bisexuals? Wouldn't god have done anything to oppose it or stop it if he was really against it?Quote:
How do you know? If god does exist, then why would he let homosexuals and etc be free? Why not smite them with his holy thunder of death or something? He did flood the world, why not wipe them out as well? This whole Adam and Eve thing makes no sense though, but whatever people wanna believe.
So Jesus shouldn't be considered a lord as Adam and Eve were chucked out of the Garden of Eden or earned god's wrath. Why accept Jesus when Adam and Eve made a big oops and ate the forbidden fruit?Quote:
Any proof it's him? Any proof homosexuality isn't from birth?
That's not the reason why the homosexual lifestyle isn't accepted. People use that as an excuse to not accept it, but they don't accept it because they're closeminded and they're scared. Homosexuality isn't something they're used to, and they're disgusted by the thought, hence they oppose it and use religion as excuse.
WITHOUT mentioning religion, that is. If you can't think of a reason why, it just proves you're another sheep that follows what the mass says.
There will always be strong opposing views in any discussion. You mad because people don't agree with you?
Please answer why someone would choose to be something that's strongly opposed?
Even if some gay people do attack straight people without provocation, and I won't say it isn't possible because even gay people can be violent, it says nothing about all gay people. That would be like someone saying the straight lifestyle is sinful because some straight people murder, do drugs, and steal. When it's flipped, the insanity of the argument becomes clear.
I know many gay people who are the nicest people you will ever meet, and they would never support unprovoked attacks on anyone. Retaliation, on the other hand, is expected. People can only be pushed so far before they push back.
Gay people are no different than straight people. They'll be just as prejudiced or accepting of straights as vice versa. Straights and Homosexuals have their good and bad sides. You only need to see the painted up homosexuals who went to a church in San Francisco and spit right into a priest's face during a ceremony (luckily the priest was humbly pacified about it). So let's not get delusional and pretend that the gay community are literally a bunch of fairies because, brother, they aren't.
Hohum, I'll inject my ideals the original topic at hand. (:
While I think it's more accepted than, say, c. 1960's, I don't think that it's so far along we can stop having parades now. I mean, there are still kids around my school who get called 'fag' behind their backs, or 'gay' is now used as an insult ('That's gay! (as in, stupid or riduclous). I think Hollywood accepts it because Hollywood is backwards to actual society. If they weren't in Hollywood, where the standard is high to be beautiful and elegant and godly, then they'd be picked on just like everyone else.
Now, hmm, where to start with the other stuff going on.
First off, I'm going to start off with this: I don't believe in God, but I'm going to try not to be offensive (if you're offended, I'm really, reallyyyy sorry )
I support gay people. Why? Because they're people. I have a strong social compass and just because someone does something differently than you in the bedroom, doesn't mean you have to go around with hate. However, it also doesn't mean you have to accept it. Just respect it, and respect that not everyone follows the religious moral plight that you do.
I think the Bible is outdated, and doesn't fit society today. We've evolved too much for it's way of life. People focus some things mentioned, but ignore others (they focus on sodomy and 'no man shall lay with another man', but ignore the fact that women aren't allowed to speak, and divorce isn't tolerated for anything other than adultery, etc, etc). If you sincerely believe that someone will not have intimate relations because their intention is not to procreate, you have been living under a dark, yet funny, rock. That is not society anymore. To expect someone to have the urge to take their relationship to the next level, but forever be kept at a junior high stage because "God said so" and they can't procreate (but can adopt children, which is a lot productive btw) is insane.
And don't even start the 'it's unnatural' argument. Take a look around you. Everything that was man-made is unnatural. Those glasses, that building, the sewer system? Unnatural in God's eyes. Because God didn't create it, amiright? And homosexuality is 'natural' because homosexual animals have existed since the beginning of time. And I've also got news for anyone who dares to break out the 'we're not animals' argument - WE ARE. Mammals. According to evolution, we evolved for an animal. We've got big brains that build stuff, and that's great, but that doesn't change the fact that WE. ARE. ANIMALS. We have basic animal insticts like defending our "territory" (way of life, house, family, etc.). We. Are. Animals. Period. (:
In case that wall of text makes you go tl;dr, I've got the lowdown for you: Homosexuality isn't 'unnatural', the bible is too outdated for society as we know it, we are animals, and I don't think homosexuality is really anyone's concern. ^^; They're people, regardless of whether you think so or not.
I try hard to revive dead threads as of late... >_>
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The old "don't ask, don't tell" rule of the US military is abolished. From now on, professed homosexuals may serve in the US army.
Since 1994 under Bill Clinton, the rule "don't ask, don't tell" allowed homosexuals to serve in the army, as long as they don't profess their sexuality. In return, it was not allowed to ask army soldiers for their sexuality. This rule was introduced to allow homosexuals to serve in the army at all. Since that, 14,000 homosexual soldiers were dismissed for confessing their sexuality.
The acceptance of openly homosexual people in the military was one of the president Obama's promises during his election campaign.
Wow, that is so late. The US really took their time once again. But, after all, the step is done now. The conservatives, as always, still protest against this - seems their minds are still stuck in medieval age.
Another news: Many homosexuals are angry about the FIFA decision about having the world cup 2022 in Qatar. Homosexuality is prohibited in Qatar and can be punished with up to five years imprisonment. A US citizen was punished with six months and 90 whiplashes for homosexual activities for example.
After deciding for Qatar, fifa president Sepp Blatter reassured the fans that they would be allowed to drink alcohol, but even mocked homosexuals when saying that homosexuals probably shouldn't have sex during that world cup.
Homosexual football fan organisations also protested against having the world cup 2018 in Russia, as violence against homosexuals was still normal in Russia. They also would rather have Theo Zwanziger (german football association president) instead of Sepp Blatter, as Zwanziger is said to do a lot for homosexuals in football.
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