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Either way, when it's revealed to not be Madara, or that Madara isn't Obito, I'm gonna be so happy. Why there are still people who think Madara is Obito is beyond me. Obito was crushed under tons of rocks. Crushed to death. Period. It's like people consider Obito is the only other existing Uchiha in history. No evidence backs up that claim. At all. Madara is shown to be an old man. Obito should be Kakashi's age. That within itself is proof enough. Oh well. I'll just opt to ignore those claims altogether.
could madara be shisui? genius ninja with a vengeance against the leaf
it's not like he couldn't gain access to replacement sharingans
I don't think people are claiming Tobi is Obito, but that Tobi's body could very well be Obito's... The hairstyle, the rediculous young look he had when he fought with Minato... it's really not streching it.
The similar look is beyond similar. Kakashi's MS dojutsu being the exact opposite of Tobi's doujutsu.
Nothing knocks the possibility of Tobi being Obito's body,,, we have great manga material to point towards Tobi being an entity with Obito's body rather than anyone else's.
True it could be Madara's real body... but i am not going to go ahead and say it without a doubt.... there is a clear reason as to why Kishi is trying hard to keep his face hidden and i highly doubt that in the end it will be to only reveal and it's Madara's face after all, it likely will be much more than that.
Current Tobi could simply be some kind of puppet which the real Madara would use within the shadows to control everything. Given Madara's eye power which according to Itachi is still intact.... Madara could maybe somehow use Obito's remaining Sharingan as a medium to use the body as his own why he himself is hidden somewhere because his real body is so torn apart.
The long hair Madara / Short haired tobi making appearances back and forth showed us that Kishi did not mess up by having a long haired Madara meet Itachi, but it was indeed what he wanted Madara to look like when he met him and when he met Kisame in the same era.
Short haired Tobi fighting Minato
Long haired Madara meets Itachi and Kisame
Now back to short haired Tobi who claims to be Madara
they could very well be the same person, but two different bodies....
Either way i don't believe Obito is conscious.... he may very well be alive but under Madara's control so that it's just as if he was really dead. The reason as to why Madara could have picked his body is simply because there was no other Uchiha body to get.... the clan hadnt been wiped yet and Madara was too weak to go on and engage a fight with his original body. That or Obito's Sharingan was what got his attention as it's unique ability maybe acting ala Shisui was something that would proove to be extremely valuable back then and even now as he's still using it over a Rinnegan.
Obito has no role into this, if it turns out to be his body it will be all there is to it... Obito pulling that kind of plan up his ass would be the worst thing i could ever see Kishi doing with this manga.
I think he might have summoned a son of the sage of the 6 paths. Madara said he was shrewd to have such a summon... if he somehow had the dna of the oldest son, that is someone Madara could fear. Who knows maybe it could even be his father or grandfather. Madara is cold. I don't think seeing his grandfather or even father would make him sad or something. Unless there is a untold story of Madara having a bastard son.
This or maybe it is someone different altogether. There is a big hole between the sage of six paths and today. It could be someone important in this link too that Madara and some others know about. SOmething like this Orochimaru could know too and Kabuto could find out. Since Mifune I have thought the sage could have been a samurai at one time. He was not the beginning of time. I think there is more to this story.
I don't think the summon was an Uchiha , because Uchiha zombi hasn't any reason for admire Naruto after getting hit by his Rasengan ...
So I think he/she should be an Uzumaki or Senju or Sage of six path ...
imagine this :
Naruto beat Sage of six path by his almighty jutsus ( Rasengan and Kagebunshin ) and Sage of six path would look at him and says :
" Young boy , you are my true successor ... You are true Savior .... I'm glad that I see you .... because ... I see the man who can bring peace in this world ... and now , I can rest in peace ... "
and Naruto make a thumb for him ...
no matter who is in lost coffin ( Kabuto's trump card ) , he/she will say something like this to Naruto this after Naruto beat him/her .
Last edited by shafagh; October 08, 2011 at 05:45 AM.
Hair styles... are you serious, bro? In the three year time skip, every rookie had a style change. Why wouldn't Madara have a style change all the years he's been alive? Therefore, your point is not valid or even considerable evidence.
So what if he's adamant of not showing his face. So is Kakashi. Kakashi in fact, has been covering his face ever since he was a kid. Have we ever seen his face? No. We will ever see his face? No. Does that mean Kakashi is hiding a secret identity? No. Just because a character is wearing a mask doesn't imply that they are hiding an alternate identity. At least, it's not implied that it's 100% that fact. Therefore, your point is not valid or even considerable evidence.
Granted, you could be just trying to justify other people's claims and these are not your own, still, you shouldn't try to justify such outlandish claims, man. There's really no basis at all for Obito to have anything to do with the story besides giving Kakashi his eyeball. Period.
an ancient shinobi from the time of the RS.a student of his who went the dark way.just a guess.
urmm... i think he summoned mizuki, its been heavily hinted throughout the manga that madara feared him so
Yes... of course. What the hell is Mizuki going to do? He was epic pwned by 12 year old pre-Gennin Naruto - his first opponent actually. He's a really weak Chuunin; Madara could literally kill him with a glance....Quote:
hahaha yea i know i know, but in all honesty based on what kabuto has stated it is someone who would mess up madaras plan and someone he might know, so imo its either izuna or the real madara, the sage of six paths was on my list, but i doubt madara has any personal relation with him