Dead - by the hands of St. Jalmack
Dead - on some later adventure
Alive - living in peace
Alive - sailing the sea as pirate
Alive - fighting for the Revolutionary Army
As I said before, unless he has amnesia IMO he´s dead.
What proof do you have for your claim of absolute brotherliness after all those years? How can you claim them/Sabi staying the same.
If you haven't noticed, Revolutionaries have/had to stay hidden so they wont get exposed to the World Government/Marines. Dragon still didn't get it touch with Luffy. Why do you think they use those special snails and radios to communicate? That would be a reason, for not getting in contact with Ace or Luffy. Just because you can't think of him acting so rational in such situation[ he would probably just be a small fly himself compared to WB, I don't want to repeat myself...], hell I would react just a Luffy did too[under the condition I'm not a revolutionairy] personally, it doesn't mean he could not nor that he didn't/doesn't love his brothers.
Last edited by Schabrak; August 30, 2010 at 10:31 PM.
I don't think the Bond that Ace, Luffy and Sabo shared was that of pure brotherhood is questionable. And regardless of their occupation that bond would likely remain unbroken. IF Sabo is a super high level RA and had some need to maintain secrecy, he might lie low....
But I doubt he'd let his brothers continue to think he's still dead. It's be cruel and torturous to all involved.. Also defies their combined drive for freedom.
I respect that there are rational ideas (however few) that could support Sabo's survival... But in the face of all other evidence pointing to his death, it's unlikely.
Personally I think that Sabo played a massive role in both influencing Ace and Luffy. I also think that his "supposed" death at the hands of a Tenryuubito is epic and underlies a clear thematic component of OP.. The corruption of the powers that be. and the forces of change to come... In that sense Sabo has already etched a place far deeper in the manga than he ever could as a RA, IMHO that is.
Oh! I've got a super suggestion!
He's been changed into a girl by Ivankov and he's gonna be Luffy's wife.
Well, I don't really believe it could have happened but it would be funny... XD
But if you ignore the Luffy's wife part, if he really is still alive and is a revolutionnary, he could really have become a girl to escape from his father.
There's no way he could be recognized once he became a girl!
I honestly don't believe that both of Luffy's brothers are dead. I strongly believe that Sabo is still alive.
I think the most recent events that have occured in OP are fitting for Luffy to one day eventually cross paths with Sabo again. Dragon obviously is preparing something big. The last indication of Sabo being alive was when Dragon returned back to his ship in the flashback...and since then the most likely "whereabouts" of Sabo is with the Revolutionaries. Now that Dragon has confirmed that he has requested all the commanders to meet together...there's a chance that maybe one of the SH's may cross paths with Sabo without knowing who he is.
Sabo could also be going by another name now...
Edit: Sabo x Robin. Perfect couple IMHO. :3
Last edited by Bugzee; August 31, 2010 at 10:43 AM.
And please don't you ever dare to accuse me of not understanding what true love for siblings means! I would give my life for my brother without thinking about it, as he would for me too, as long as not both would end up dead obviously. That comment made me really agressive, it's hard not to become insulting.:E
Last edited by Schabrak; August 31, 2010 at 12:07 PM.
But If Akainu didn´t tempt him, he´ll be crying for WhiteBeard´s death right now. However, I agree with you except in one point, as I said in my post earlier, the last thing he could have done ("Just few days after being rescued by Dragon" **) is send a letter to Ace saying that he´s alright.
**Not confirmed but seems the most probable scenario.
thanks to you, now I have 3 possible theory :
1- He´s dead
3- Your point, looking at Ace´s big family he might have thought that no way he´s gonna die which would be a serious change in his personality\character.
But then again if he doesn´t have amnesia IMO he´d have sent a letter to Ace.
So I guess I have to add a 4th one :
4- 2 and started remembering thing not long ago + 3 ^^
SABO IS NOOOOOT DEAD!!!!!...WATCH EPISODE 504 OF ONE PIECE AND NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE EPISODE THERE IS A SCENE WHERE DRAGONS SHIP IS DOCKED AND DRAGON WALKS BACK ONTO THE SHIP ONLY TO BE YELLED AT AND THEN DRAGON WHILE OPENING HIS CLOAK SAYS SORRY BUT YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT WAS INSIDE OF HIS CLOAK...WELL WHEN THEY SAY "OH THATS VERY BAD...TREAT HIM NOW"...AND THEN LEAVE DRAGON STANDING THERE, THEY WERE TALKIN ABOUT SABO BECAUSE DRAGON RESCUED HIM FROM THE SEE AFTER THE CELESTIAL DRAGON SHOT AT HIM FOR THE VERY LAST TIME
Last edited by t00192723; July 09, 2011 at 03:29 PM.
Welcome to the One Piece forums and Mh - t00192723.
Please try not to use all caps when posting because that gives the impression you're yelling and its not a good format, when reading the post.
Now about Sabo - that you mentioned. I don't recall the manga chapters about him well enough but I think the anime part you speak of might be filler. I could be wrong as I don't recall that too well.
Someone here can correct me on that, no doubt.
Edit: I also want to extend an invitation to you to make your own introduction thread at the mh Memberz Zone. This way, you can say hello to the community.
Last edited by Charlie; July 09, 2011 at 06:37 PM.
i think Oda is supervising each episode creation even fillers so there is a 0.01%(yeah its possible) that Sabo is the one that Dragon saved
actually that same part was in the manga and it was just as unmisunderstandably that this "treat him" was directed at Sabo. there are quite some who don't see it that way though but really there was no other simple and yet convincing theory around - in the manga it was also not clear who said that line iirc ?
The anime didn't add much to the manga, but the way it was said made it pretty obvious that Sabo was alive. Manga was ambiguous and translations were all over the place, anime was more reassuring the kiddies. And yeah, Oda checks these things, even at the start before they knew how important plot details would get, or Rayleigh wouldve been the captain of Buggy & Shanks' ship back in the day
Sabo wanted to sail the seas & write a book about it, (it's been said before but) could be the narrator for all we know.
i did notice that also. After dragon met sabo some time earlier at night, im sure dragon seen a spark in his eye. Sabo definitely looks like revolutionary material to help overthrow world government influence. With him being once in the noble family will definitely help.
But Sabo is very much alive and under Dragons care. Ivankov and Kuma(RIP) both have knowledge of the aftermath of Sabos medical treatment on the ship after Dragon brought him in.
Lastly i have a very strange feeling that due to Sabos very bad wounds, most of his body including face may have been burned to the point where he may not even be recognizable anymore. When we do see him again (pressumably the NW) He may either :
1. wearing a mask
2. reconstructed as an android or something (sorry i know this is a stupid point)
3. New name, new personality, disregarded his previous life and friends.
Last edited by modoki; August 16, 2011 at 01:44 PM.