The only interesting thing about Kakuzu was the experience. I want to see how the world was during Hashirama's era, and how Kakuzu fought and lost to Hashirama before learning the kinjutsu.
Though, Kakuzu was kinda cool with all four or five hearts. I liked seeing elemental combo attacks.
so ; i agree in saying that being a zombie works for kakuzu the best . he used to need hearts for survival but now he does not ..
Last edited by Melmoth; November 30, 2010 at 12:47 PM.
The fact remains that neither Naruto or Sasuke could have attained their current powers simply by staying in Konoha. Sure they probably would have gotten stronger eventually, But nowhere near their current level and nowhere near as fast. Even the Sennins weren't as strong as those two are now when they were at the same ages.
It isn't always just about winning, not at all. It's about the simple fact that you achieve greater power, real power, in those moments when you wish to fight for someone or something other than yourself. Also, we should probably never forget that what appears as if it's going to be one of Sasuke's absolute strongest areas, an area in which no Uchiha before him will be an equal, the control he possesses over the black flames of Amaterasu, is a power he first displayed in an effort to protect his team.
He first awakened Amaterasu after what? A desire to protect those who are important to him, he even reflected back on Team 7.
He first showcased the power to manipulate Amaterasu's flames under what circumstance? A circumstance in which protecting an ally was a top priority for him.
I haven't said that a ninja can't be considerably powerful while not giving a damn about anyone but themselves, but the true power of a shinobi emerges in this manga when they desire to protect those important to them, and for one of Sasuke's most significant new powers, his control over Amaterasu's black flames, his first "real" firing of Amaterasu's black flames, and then his manipulating of those flames came from an effort to protect his team. I'm not surprised that his apparently completed Susanoo appears to make use of Amaterasu's flames too.
Ninjas can be strong while being completely wrongheaded, nobody said they can't be, but this manga always gives off a message that, if they had their heads in the right place, they could have been even stronger. That's basically exactly what Kankurou said to Sasori in this most recent chapter.
Even with his Susanoo display at the Kage Summit, he had not completed it further and gained more power until this moment.
He was pushed further by the love he has for his brother, and knowing how much his brother loved him, it pushed him to achieve even greater power.
Don't think for a second that Nagato didn't become significantly stronger, eventually turning into Pain, as a direct result of the love he had for those he had lost, like Yahiko for example. As strong as Pain had become, his whole path in life was influenced on his love for his friend Yahiko. However, his ideology had become twisted. Pain was an example of how powerful Nagato could become, and it was definitely influenced on the love of a friend, but if he had his heart in the right place, he could have been even stronger.
Also, I would point out that Sasuke didn't show the ability to manipulate Amaterasu's flames until the Kage Summit, At the point that he began his dark descent and disregard for the lives of others including his teammates.
Delaying or holding off a threat is a major accomplishment, especially when it saves lives of those from the next generation, or leads to the later extermination of a threat. Were it not for the Third Hokage's curse, Sasuke would have already been in Orochimaru's hands, and he would also have made the transfer into Sasuke's body much sooner, instead of the body of the random shinobi he was forced to enter because Sasuke took too long to reach him.
So, the delay that Sarutobi's actions had on Orochimaru's ambitions were significant and ultimately for the greater good. It also allowed for a new Hokag to return to a Konoha that was still standing and actually had some hope for the future, as opposed to the alternative if Orochimaru's plan succeeded.
Kakashi may even have died on that night 16 years ago with no one around to stop the Kyuubi, forcing him to get involved as well, which would have possibly meant he wouldn't have ended up as Naruto's Sensei, meaning Naruto would never have learned the Fuuton RasenShuriken. Heck, Madara would likely still have control of the Kyuubi, which would have made him far closer to his ultimate goal.
Jiraiya's sacrifice, for example, is significantly responsible for why Pain was defeated.
It's like Nagato once said. It's because people love, that they are capable of hate. Sasuke's hatred is also greatly driven by his love, same as it was for Nagato.
The same with defeating Pain. Yeah, Jiraiya had a role in it, But it was also luck that Naruto became a Sage Mode user and was able to complete the FRS. Otherwise he would have never even gotten to the point where he could influence Nagato. Not to mention the luck in Hinata interfering and getting stuck down in order to force Naruto into his Kyuubi form where he could escape and meet Minato.
Now I'm not saying what he or the others did was meaningless. It's simply that they were never able to achieve anything permanent in their desire to protect others. So yeah, Their actions aren't meaningless, But they needed a bunch of luck for things to actually work in their favor afterward.
However, Minato was clearly attempting this for a long enough period of time that Kakashi himself was also trying it, and then created Chidori only after failing to combine rasengan with nature manipulation.
So, Kakashi clearly had to have learned Rasengan from Minato at some point, and I doubt he learned it in a week like Naruto did. Kakashi clearly knew Minato was attempting to combine rasengan with nature manipulation, and he knows that Minato failed to compete it.
The point is he couldn't do it, and neither could Kakashi. Master and student both failed, Naruto succeeded. It's as simple as that. Minato, according to Kakashi, failed to do it, which means he clearly had a decent bit of time to practice it. If it took Naruto using that incredible Kage Bunshin method to master FRS, and it's confirmed by Kakashi that even Minato couldn't use such a method, then it obviously means Minato mastering that technique would take an incredible length of time, he might never have mastered it.Quote:
Also, I don't see why Kakashi couldn't have learnt it all that fast considering he has much better chakra control then Naruto and possibly the aid of the Sharingan to speed up his training.