The real Madara
Madara with another body (Who's body? Obito's?)
Izuna, Madara's brother
I'm fairly certain that out of the many Sharingan that Tobi keeps, he constantly uses Obito's right eye, as Tobi's portal/warp-like space time jutsu could very well be the sister mangekyo to Kamui, residing in the Obito eye used by Kakashi. Ground for this is their similair nature, look and effect.
I'm convinced Tobi is not Obito. There are, in my view, two theories that 1) would fit very well ad 2) have little to no discovered arguments that would render them impossible. Impossible would be Obito and Shisui, for numerous reasons. The two most plausible ones are:
-Avatar/clone/something of Madara, though it has one drawback, namely the way Tobi wields the Rinnegan in a entirely different way, with far less skill than Madara.
-Izuna Uchiha has a lot going for it, so far, I have not heard a single good argument against it. Yet.
But I'm too lazy to describe everything in my theory here since I've already posted this in detail in another thread.
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Where do people keep getting an idea that Tobi is using MS for his ST jutsu? He never was shown to have it, he always had normal 3 tomoe sharingan, whereas Kakashi is required to use MS for his special ability.
The only reason I can think of why Kakashi has such a unique MS jutsu is because he's not an Uchiha and does not possess abilities like Tsukuyomi, Susanoo or Amaterasu.
i would love to know how and why kakashi is the only MS we have seen use that ability, i would love some type of book from kishi that explains all of these unknown mysteries
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i think certain uchiha's have special abilities, notice how shisui had that awesome genjutsu that could fool or persuade even the most advanced shinobi
i wonder if sasuke or itachi have some unique ability that no other uchiha has, like some type of power that sasuke will develop that will be unique from other uchiha's
From what has been shown, there's a wide amount of possible MS techniques, so Kamui may not be as unique as we think.
The only thing which seems rather odd about this is the fact that Edo Madara could use Susanoo while having Rinnegan on. Every other Uchiha needed to use MS/EMS to gain access to special abilities.Quote:
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I myself didnt believe it at first but now I am a believer. Tobi is Obito I don't care what any of you say.
Just put their sharingans together....and you get Obito's face inside Tobi's mask.
Explanation on why Tobi is Obito? Zetsu found Obito's body and somehow revived it or whatever and Tobi is therefor Obito, and with half his body that was crushed...that part is made of Zetsu. It all makes sense now.
Read the Chapter. - http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/65097047/1
A brilliant proof based on sharingans, which are nowadays sold in every second-hand shop... considering how Tobi seems to know Kakashi, it would make sense, but this is a theory - one of many. Please don't start a religion.
Actually, I'm not against this at all. However, the page you use as proof only indicates on who it can be, but it doesn't show that it can't be anyone but Obito... so this remains a theory, although well supported.
I agree with 0Xellos; Tobi could be Obito and there are certain indications that this may be the case (Obito apparently knowing something of Kakashi's past is the latest indicator), but this evidence is not definite proof. Definite proof will be when Kishimoto confirms it. Also, this theory and the "eye" evidence has been around for years.
the crazy thing is...who ever it is...kakashi has looked in/at his face before.for tobi to say what he said that is(that kakashi doesn't remember him)...tobi may have been shown to us without us knowing it was tobi(if you get where i'm coming from...lol)
but,the eyes are a good side to side view...you may be right.
i have always believed tobi was a shinobi not a creation...maybe even zetsu too...