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that's awesome fan-arts from both of you!
Love Helen's face, as it has that "Helen look", great eyes and mouth and hair, it really gives her, her silly-playful-naughty-drunk look, hehe.
Love Galatea too, though I can't make any comments as they'd be inappropriate... hehe, other than awesome fan-art of Galatea! actually, for some reason... I'm thinking of a news reporter when I look at your Galatea pic...
if you want a quick look at part of the claymore sword, just look at my avatar pic (it's Clare's hand and sword)
Last edited by HegemonKhan; November 20, 2010 at 06:22 PM.
I've decided since i've got time im gonna redo deneve if thats ok :P
u know... i just remembered. i think i drew a pic of Miria a few years ago, should i pull it out and put it in for the claymore competition too?
well, it's kinda bad though, and it was a direct copy off one of the manga covers too. think it's probably better off just to use official art than my old Miria. -___-
speaking of which, is she taken yet? *clicking back to front page to check*
if you can get it done today, then sure you can redo it.
Miria is already taken, but if you want you can do her too, in case the other person doesn't provide her today. However, if the other person does, we're using his/her fan-art cause he/she had Miria, and we thus wouldn't use yours. Though, if you already think that your Miria isn't that good, you can not do her, up to you. But, remember we're taking the other person's fan-art if he/she provides it.
Last edited by HegemonKhan; November 20, 2010 at 10:41 PM.
sry none of it is shaded or colored, not very confident in doing that and doing it takes a huge amount of time for me since I'm not that skilled.
edit: actually, heck no. there's some changes I want to make to Alicia, hold on...
edit: changes made. ok, this is what i'm using for the fanart. (same link)
Last edited by TheNewHorde; November 20, 2010 at 09:04 PM.
Awesome Alicia, hehe.
*The Claymore tournament is starting today, Mon. Nov. 22!*
(Let the massive yoki flows be released! Muhahaha!)
Last edited by HegemonKhan; November 22, 2010 at 04:52 AM.
Galatea and Miria in the same sub division?
Alicia and Teressa in the same sub division?
oh sh*t, now I gotta choose between voting for my fav or my own drawings, lol.
Well, it's the Claymore Tournament, you choose on who would win the matches, for this
As much as you (and we) like your (and everyone's) fan-art(s), you (we) don't use that to decide on your (our) vote(s), lol
Please remove my post if it's out of line or out of place in this thread. I was wondering if anyone who participates in the tournament could draw a portrait of Galatea or Cynthia, while giving her a true to life appearance. On Deviantart.com, a person by the handle of Lily did this for Phantom Maria with unbelievable success. She also did the same for Clare, Rigaldo, Teresa and Galatea but I find her interpretation of Miria, the most successful. It's just different to have one of our favorite characters come to life.
Since you're asking/requesting for the participants of this Claymore Tournament for a "life-like?" pic of Galatea, I'll leave it up.
Though, I'd suggest try going to this site's main page, and scrolling down (to the art section) and looking into and making a request in the appropriate section of the art threads on this site, or just going to other sites with artists (or specifically Claymore artists) and ask/request around.
any predictions of who's going to win the entire tournament?
any comments about the characters whom were chosen and whom weren't included?
Of the characters whom weren't included, how'd you think they would do?
Last edited by HegemonKhan; November 23, 2010 at 01:18 PM.
They wouldn't fight each other... ever. Well, pretty much no matter what minus mind control or some other loop hole situation. Hell, during the Deneve vs Tabitha fight Helen stopped Tabitha not Deneve... So even when trying to stop her friend from going at it she didn't stop Deneve but her taget, I just can't ever see them fighting.
but at the same time, all the more so, isn't it awesome to have them "fighting it out" to see whom would win?, *grins*
anyways, can/could you please provide an explanation for your vote? (you can edit it into your post, instead of making a new one, or you can make a new post)
Last edited by HegemonKhan; November 24, 2010 at 01:06 AM.
Sorry, but these two would just never fight baring that loop hole situation and if it did arise we'd need to know the details of why they where fighting for a proper scenario. I mean choosing these two to battle is about as pointless as asking who'd win Clare vs Teresa if Teresa came back from the dead in goddess form but Clare had achieved her goddess form too and where to duck it out.
Point being they just care too much about each other to ever go all out against each other in a fight. Say what you want about ignoring this clear logic of this but without a scenario how are we to judge which one of the two would be the least likely to not hold back... this is a major and repeated theme found through out Claymore, BEING FIT FOR BATTLE, and against a loved one how can one be fit enough to go all out against them?
Sure Helen could drill sword Deneve in half from behind with and extended limb like she did against Isley then finish Deneve off before she can heal, or Deneve could take a glancing blow from that attack and chop off Helen's arm but for these two to fight one could only win if they went all out against each other and that situation will just never arise minus an awakening in which case there stats above would have changed. They are just too close to each other in terms of power and they like each other way to much to ever go that full out against one another. With out a loop hole situation they'd have a short meaningless battle like Clare vs Miria in the north with both traded blows but will stop once they realized the other was about on par with them... thus making it a draw and a pointless argument. If one was clearly stronger than the other than one might be willing to defeat the other safely (like Miria vs the org warriors) but that isn't the case here and there bonds are especially deep, even by Claymore standards. I mean Deneve even made a plan on dying together for crying out loud and later Helen tried to make sure it would happen.
Eh, you're making a problem where there isn't one Ryus. It's just a game, it doesn't have to make sense and the fights don't have to be probable. We're assuming here they would fight and that's it. But if you really need a reason for them to fight you can imagine that Raftela mind f**ks both of them making them think they're fighting someone else (Riguald/Rubel/some Claymore they would think killed Miria). In fact we may see sth like this in coming chapters ;P.
Or they could fight over a guy (Raki/Galk/Cid) or Helen can become schizofrenic.
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In chapter 85 Deneve implies that MiB might be lacking manpower and IMO that encounter, the one in the North (were Nina and others were rescued), Riful's encounter and Miria's, all suggest that they were more focused on making AFs and better soul-linked warriors than regular warriors.
As for my examples, it's still a valid argument. Warriors #3-5 were stronger than Audrey and it doesn't matter that Raphaela was special. It only shows that this generation was stronger than current one and that was my point.
As for Ophelia - many things prove she was stronger than Audrey. Irene was definitely a better warrior than Ophelia but the latter had potential to surpass her. Her combat stats, i.e. youki, strength and agility were at A level, better than Irene's and Galatea's, however she wasn't even #3 with those stats (most probably because she was mentally unstable, similar to Miata's case).
Yeah Galatea fought against Duph and managed to survive - that much and at the same time only that. She couldn't harm him even at 50% youki release state (or even more) after her manipulation skill lost effectiveness. Duph had the same injuries when Clare was heading toward Jean and after she came back, he didn't even make a sweat (at least from what I saw Galatea didn't impress him).
On the other hand Ophelia fought single digit AB at 30% of her strength - that's a big difference (especially if you take into account how much stronger Galatea would become after releasing youki, suggesting that if she didn't do it at the start of her fight with Ophelia she would more likely loose).
As for Irene vs. Ophelia, Galatea wouldn't stand a chance against her either. She would even have lesser chance than Ophelia because she wasn't as agile as her and probably wouldn't even survive Irene's attack (the fact alone she survived such attack even though she was an offensive warrior tells us what a monster she was). In Ophelia vs Galatea fight my money would be on Ophelia too. She was crazy but wasn't stupid and manipulation trick would be probably useless against her, especially if she used the rippling sword.
Duff couldn't move much and Galatea managed only to make shallow cuts on him (and only on specific, non-armored places). Sure she didn't have that much space to dodge but it was enough for someone of her size to do it. Galatea at the time she fought with Duph had only manipulation skill, without it and without releasing youki she couldn't dodge his attacks and Dauph could only aim by twisting his neck. If it was in opened space it would be much more difficult to fight him.
In Ophelia vs AB from Gonahl fight we don't know anything about this AB, beside she was really powerful (definitely former single digit). Clare needed only a glimpse of her strength to know she doesn't stand a chance, after training with Irene she didn't budge when fighting Duph.
Although he was big, he wasn't slow compared to Claymores and his burping had enormous speed. We saw that even though Galatea knew he was aiming at her she didn't manage to dodge because she was too slow and as I wrote above he aimed only by twisting his neck. By moving his entire body it would be more difficult for Galatea to handle the situation.
Possibility of getting behind him wouldn't increase Galatea's chances since she wouldn't be able to cut through his armor (she got behind him at least once and it didn't make much difference). Not to mention if she got behind him Dauph would have serious problem to turn his body.
Ophelia is the one being underestimated, sure AB managed to twist her neck but her strength was substantial. How many claymores would have still their heads on their necks if sth like that happened to them ? If someone is of superior strength than even "delicate" move like that could be deadly, meaning Ophelia was really strong and tough.
So unless you would like to change your opinion and say that Galatea was roughly equal (or weaker) to Audrey, Ophelia being stronger than Audrey is a fact. Your argument that Ophelia was raped by Irene is no argument since the same would happen to Galatea (especially if she foolishly attacked cloaked Irene, she wouldn't even see Irene's attack coming and even if she did she wouldn't be fast enough to react since she couldn't even dodge Duff's pole).
As for Renee vs. Miria, be honest Ryus. Miria could escape Riful's attack from point blank range (not to mention she could sit on her head instantly without her doing anything) using her slower version of her phantom, whereas Renee couldn't do a thing against Riful even though as an eye she should have sensed her coming with enough lead/advance/anticipation (don't know how to say it in English :P). Sorry but your "precognition" argument goes out the window. I don't even know how did you come up with it in the first place. There is no indication Galatea has "precognition" ability, not to mention Renee. AFAWK only Clare and Teresa had such ability.
As for Dee vs. Flora, read my post in Nina vs. Dee thread. If not for her dodging Helen's and Deneve's attacks I would say she came out rather bad in her encounter against AB, worse than Nina. And yes, I can see Flora dodging Helen's and Deneve's attacks or at least blocking them. She was the fastest "sword-drawer" after all.
Plus Miria said to Clare that she "shouldn't be outdone even by high ranking single digit warriors". But she was talking about Clare, not Helen and Deneve and they surely were weaker than Clare. And judging by their performance against Dee they were only slightly above her but had their partial-awakening skills that gave them the edge.
And about fighting among hellcats and AFs, for all we know she was only a bystander waiting for both sides kill each other. I don't see a reason why Flora would make any worse than her if she knew what Dee knew. In addition her WC technique would protect her from getting a parasite.
As to Jean vs. Nina - Jean held the longest against Riguald and still managed to protect her body from instant death, i.e. she performed better than Flora. Nina had problems with keeping up with "way faster than average AB" and needed help for her attack to succeed. To me the obvious winner would be Jean.
Last edited by Goral; November 25, 2010 at 12:27 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
It doesn't even need to be that complicated as to involve Raftela. Deneve gets hungry and steals one of Helen's apples. Helen, the apple binge eater, goes haywire and seeks retribution against the thief.
I would say that their fight ends in a draw. They split an apple and share a pint.
Last edited by HegemonKhan; November 25, 2010 at 02:34 AM.