This is a ranking system according to the information we have seen thus far...
I maybe forgetting people so please remind me if I do. Secondly if you disagree with anyone's ranking please give me a detailed post why so. I'll change it or respond in kind with a reason of my own why I disagree...
I didn't put in people such as Van Augur or the rest of the BB crew (with the exception of Shiryuu) because we have yet to see them fight seriously...
Please also note that people within certain levels can vary in strength & people 1 level above or below can fight with subsequent ranks. For example someone from rank 6 can beat someone from rank 7.
This ranking is to show overall 'Power' & does not account for things like 'Luffy's In-human Will'...
People may move up or down & if necessary we can add .5 ranks & more to show the varying degrees of strength within each rank.
Please try not to flame me if you disagree and explain why you think I'm wrong (if you do.). I did not make this thread to cause arguments or the like and I will listen to any and all opinions fairly.
I also understand that their are things within One Piece that we can't as of yet predict or judge. I'm simply trying to give a rough estimate. I would like to work with you all so that we can have the most accurate rankings on characters. To help further or One Piece discussions & Theories!
Order 0.5-10. 0.5 being weakest 10 being strongest.
Deceased or No On Panel Fights =
Whitebeard Pirates = Green
Roger Pirates = Teal
Strawhat Pirates = Dark Orange
Shichibukai = Magenta
Supernovas = Gray
Revolutionaries = Sienna
Marines/World Government = Purple
Blackbeard Pirates = Dark Slate Blue
Redhair Pirates = Dark Red
No Current Affiliation = Black
WhiteBeard, Gol D. Roger
Level 9.5: Garp & Sengoku
Level 9: Akainu, Kizaru, Aokiji & Shanks
Level 8.5: Marco, Rayleigh
Level 8: Jozu, Mihawk, Kuma(Not Pacifista), Doflamingo, Hancock, Beckman, BlackBeard
Level 7.5: Enel, Magellan,
Level 7: Vice Admirals, Ivankov, Crocodile, Jimbei, Vista, Shiryuu & Sentoumaru
Level 6.5: Smoker, Pacafista, Oars, Inazuma
Level 6: Luffy (Pre-Time Skip), Rob Lucci, T. Law, A. Kidd, B. Hawkins, XDrake, Moria
Level 5: Zoro, Sanji, Killer, J. Bonney
Level 4.5 Bepo, S. Apoo
Level 4: Daz Bones, Brook, Franky, Robin, Urouge, Hina, Hannyabal,
Ryuuma, Perona, Absalom
Level 3: Taishigi, Colby, Bon Kurea, Nami, Chopper, Usopp, B. Capone
Level 2: Bellamy & Arlong
Level 1: Duvall, Buggy, Galdino
Level 0.5: Don Kreig, Kuro
Current Version = v.04
Last edited by BlackSword; October 16, 2010 at 03:47 PM. Reason: Updated 10/16/2010
I would put Shanks in level 9. Imo , Whitebeard and Roger were in another league .. maybe Garp being near it (in his prime) , but that's all until Shanks proves me wrong.
U forgot the yonkou (the other 3) don't you ?
In fact I can't agree with some positions:
1. Enel. He clearly is at the level of Admirals. He has one of the most destructive DF, he has trained his DF to a great extent. Also his mantra, which can be the greatest in the manga.
2. WB division commanders. There are plenty of them and there is also a big difference between them, so the can't be put at the same power level.
3. BlackBeard. He clearly is lower in powrlevel. In level 7. Without his DF he is nothing and even with it he can be killed by someone like Akainu or Mihawk who will try to kill him with the first strike.
4. Smoker. I don't think that he is that strong. he is really simply commander level marine who has DF. His only advantage against Luffy or Zorro is his logia DF. Now Luffy has Haki, so Smoker won't be a problem.
5. Sanji. He is clearly not at Zoro's level.
6. Buggy must be below Arlong and Bellamy. They both had higher bounties and had more power, strength and skill than Buggy.
If we're talking about pre time-skip levels here, than I agree with the ranking of the strawhats.
but... you argumentet that you can't measure van Augur - shouldn't the same apply to Beckman. And Crocodile has "only" his logia power - while enel has mantra as well. Hancock has all Haki types which would make her stronger than, for example, crocodile.
And in regards to Blackbeards strength: he has 2 DF powers which should make him at least a level 8
what else? oh yes, the thing with the WB commanders is the same with the Vice admirals - some are stronger than others...
However. I put Enel in level 7 simply because his lack of experience. The reason he lost to Luffy was caused primarily by this. Most of the people in Level 8 are there simply because of their experience. I admit that he is very powerful but his lack of real fighting experience (i.e only fought with people from Skypie) Makes him on the same level as Crocodile.
As for Blackbeard being weak. I don't think it is possible to kill BlackBeard in the first hit. He took Whitebeards Quake to the head (Anime Only) and still got back up. All things considered the guy has insane resilience and the fact that he was offered a position as a division commander of WB pirates before he even had his DF proves he isn't just for show. Not to mention the fact that he has the Quake Quake fruit which in itself makes him very dangerous adversary.
I Agree that Sanji is indeed slightly weaker than Zoro however I don't see him as so much weaker that he is in another level and seeing as how they have never fought (seriously) I will leave them on the same level. Because Sanji is most likely on par with most supernovas and is stronger than pretty much everyone in Level 4.
I judged Beckman simply on him making Kizaru halt. Upon Oda's on admitance Beckman has the highest I.Q of any One Piece character as well as COA Haki. He is also the first-mate of a Yonkou. CoA Haki & Highest I.Q making him very powerful indeed.
I also did not forget the other Yonkou I simply left them out because they could be anywhere from level 10 to level 8. We can't ascertain their power levels or abilities as of yet.
Last edited by BlackSword; October 02, 2010 at 05:43 AM.
He lost to Luffy only because Luffy's DF is a natural enemy of Lightning DF. Enel's DF destructive power is on par with the admirals. In fact his DF power is one of the best in manga on par with Kizaru. He could also restart his heart with his DF power. And you can't compare him to Vista... he can exterminate people with lightnings of 1 million volts. There is only Luffy and normal Logias who can survive his attacks. So it's not the question of experience.Quote:
He isn't durable. He is just fat, so of course it's difficult to inflict damage by punching him or quakeing him, because his body is good for defense from these types of attacks, but it's very easy to kill him by using Logia DF attacks. People like Admirals could desintegrate him or make him a ice statue. Also Enel using his most powerful attacks from the start could inflict critical damage.Quote:
And BB wasn't offered a position of WB division commander. Where did you see it?
I don't think that he is slightly weaker than Zoro. That's why it would be better to form groups in the levels, for the sake of clearing situations like this.Quote:
Yes blackbeard was offered a position as commander
I believe it was during either 'Ace Flashback' (One about WB) Or during the conversation between Shanks and Whitebeard. Also Ace was also a Logia and a powerful one at that. & He still lost to blackbeard.Quote:
As for Enel. Vista and and the other WB Div. Commanders are capable of 'Haki'. Vista uses against Akainu during the war. Secondly Vista went toe to toe with Mihawk. Mihawk even commented that only a fool wouldn't know of Vista. Needless to say if Vista could go up against Akainu & Mihawk he could most certainly go against Enel who doesn't even know what haki is. (He thinks mantra is a special skill and is unaware that other people outside of his chosen few can use it. Aswell as it would seem that he is completely unaware of the existence of CoA Haki.)
Last edited by BlackSword; October 02, 2010 at 06:34 AM.
Mihawck stated only his skills in swordsplay, but nothing more. His Haki wasn't enough to inflict real damage to Akainu, so it can't be count that much and also he wasn't alone.Quote:
Enel is deffinetly stronger than Vista. It can't be denied, because it was obviously shown in the manga. In destructive power he is on par with Kizaru and Akainu and maybe even stronger than Aokiji.
About BB... I just can't remember this being stated in manga, though it doesn't matter that much really. In my opininion he is nothing without his DF.
I only disagree with the lower levels!
You're downplaying Franky by a mile!
He is on pair with Luffy (no Gears), and would kick Bon Kurei's ass in a second (Tashigi's power is a big (?) we only know she is weaker than Luffy, and that would probably be owned by Zoro if they fought again!)!
So I guess you should put Bentham and Tashigi together with Nami, Usopp and Chopper!
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You know, before WB and Ace in One Piece people didn't die no matter what. Even if they were stabbed, reaped and exploded. But you should look at SH crew and guerillas. They were deffinetly kicked by Enel, though they are rather durable and he only really used his power against Luffy. Remember the ship and how he crushed Sanji and Usopp with the least of his power.Quote:
Hmm, it seems like an okay list but Crocodile should be lower on that list. Luffy did manage to beat him. Enel should be at a higher level just because his bounty would be no less than 500,000,000. Luffy was his only natural enemy as to why he got beat. I think if he were to fight be would at a Admiral's level or slightly a bit lower. With his mantra ability, it would be hard to even fight him. Ace should at least be level 8. Nami should be at least level 6 for her ability to beat luffy with the fist of love as garp said
Whow , his virtual bounty doesn't mean anything. Bounties already mean nothing in the current story .. so in a hypothetical parallel one ..Quote:
Enel is strong , but he's stupid and would be pwned by any of the rank 8-9-10 fighters.
Why ? Ace was weaker that Jozu and Marco and he didn't manage to defeat Jinbei. It's seems logical to put him in level 7.Quote:
Ace moved to Level 8
Vista moved to Level 7
Taishigi & Bon Kurea moved to Level 3
Nami's ability to beat up Luffy is a gag not an actual ability.
Crocodile is powerful. Versus anyone who doesn't have so much experience fighting him he is almost admiral level in raw power. I.E. Crocodile did the best against Akainu besides Whitebeard.
Last edited by BlackSword; October 02, 2010 at 12:08 PM.
you should put garp, sengoku and probably rayleigh on 9.5.
i think enel should be at no 8. or 7.5 he has haki, logia, super fast.
Thats about right, although I would put ace maybe at 8, as he went toe to toe with Aokoji, none of the other whitebeard captains could beat akainu or blackbeard, because of their abilities. Don't move enel above 7, god sakes luffy beat him and didn't have a horrible time laying hits on him and think how much luffy has improved since then. Apart from that god job
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