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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    I think he is most likely dead, but i hope not. He was probably my favorite captain or one of them. Along w Aizen, Kenpachi and Mayuri.
    Kensei is now one of my favs since he became a captain again

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuteiken View Post
    Seconded!
    And who cares about plot enhancement? I don't. If there is a microscopic chance to bring back an ultra-cool character, you go for it. That's simple!

    Make him come back as a hero.
    Make him come back as a ghost, some sort of hollow, other kind of spiritual being, etc., etc.
    Just bring him back Kubo!
    Thirded!

    Well, I really think he's dead. I absolutely believe that he is. And I don't think the one that has sneaked on Opie and Urahara is Gin.

    But.

    If Kubo can bring him back, I don't care if it's a plot hole, or if it's just for fanservice (because he's a fan fav), or if people who seek logic in Bleach complain. Because Gin is in my top 3 fav characters and I would welcome him with open arms and tears in eyes. /the end

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    I hope he's the one who attacked Kirge. I hope I hope.

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bromamura View Post
    I hope he's the one who attacked Kirge. I hope I hope.
    Well, in a way, that would make sense, as Urahara would be really, really surprised to see Gin alive.
    In some other way, that would make even more sense, as Kirge was probably attacked from distance and we all know few Zanpakutos could ever come close to that kind of speed to go from cutting Kirge back to pointing at Urahara.
    So, at the very least, for him to be the rescuer would make sense.

    As for his survival..
    What if he received sort of Urahara's punishment? After Yoruichi saved Urahara and Tessai from the court, they were sort of ignored. Urahara was, at that point, still considered responsible of Hollowfication case, but no SS resident went after him. They were banished from SS, I guess.
    So, for Gin to receive such similar punishment (actually, although introduced as a villain, Gin killed fewer people than perhaps any other and none within the main story, so, he's likely to be receiving a much more lenient action compared to Aizen at any case) and go on to take Hueco Mundo as a new home, it's at least a debatable prediction, right?

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    What purpose would he have for coming back? How would his coming back further the plot? Those are the answers I am interested in, while it would be nice to see him But I don't see him being welcome back with open arms.
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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuteiken View Post
    Seconded!
    And who cares about plot enhancement? I don't. If there is a microscopic chance to bring back an ultra-cool character, you go for it. That's simple!
    Eh, I like Gin, but Bleach is actually better than Naruto right now for the first time in years, the last thing Kubo needs to do right now is start copying Kishi by bringing back dead characters Bleach was a lot more fun when Gin was pretending to be the main villain, but there isn't really a place for him in the story anymore.

    He hates Aizen, so he can't come back into the story with a plot to free his master. (Which would be a pretty cool way for tousen to come back even though I dislike his character)
    He cut Hiyori in half, so I doubt the Vizards would welcome him into their group.
    He wouldn't join up with the Sternritter because they want to kill shinigami which puts Rangiku in danger.
    And he can't even go back to SS because even though he was only with Aizen to try and kill him, he still spent 100+ years committing crimes against SS at Aizen's side.
    Gin could possibly join up with Urahara's group, but that feels like a stretch to me.

    Even if Gin did come back, would he really stand a chance against the Sternritter? His Bankai is pretty hax, but his Shikai isn't, and he would stand even less of a chance against his Bankai then Byakuya did against his own. If Gin comes back, I want him to kick some ass, but I don't know that that would be very realistic against these new anti-Bankai quincy. Gin is cool, I don't want to see him die again, so I would prefer that he stay out of the story for now, for his own safety. If he comes back now I feel like he will just get Orochimaro'd.

    I think the best case scenario is for chibi Gin to appear when Kubo does another Turn Back the Pendulum arc. I'm fine with remembering Gin as the bad ass that only lost to Butterflaizen until that time

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonix View Post
    Eh, I like Gin, but Bleach is actually better than Naruto right now for the first time in years, the last thing Kubo needs to do right now is start copying Kishi by bringing back dead characters Bleach was a lot more fun when Gin was pretending to be the main villain, but there isn't really a place for him in the story anymore.

    He hates Aizen, so he can't come back into the story with a plot to free his master. (Which would be a pretty cool way for tousen to come back even though I dislike his character)
    He cut Hiyori in half, so I doubt the Vizards would welcome him into their group.
    He wouldn't join up with the Sternritter because they want to kill shinigami which puts Rangiku in danger.
    And he can't even go back to SS because even though he was only with Aizen to try and kill him, he still spent 100+ years committing crimes against SS at Aizen's side.
    Gin could possibly join up with Urahara's group, but that feels like a stretch to me.

    Even if Gin did come back, would he really stand a chance against the Sternritter? His Bankai is pretty hax, but his Shikai isn't, and he would stand even less of a chance against his Bankai then Byakuya did against his own. If Gin comes back, I want him to kick some ass, but I don't know that that would be very realistic against these new anti-Bankai quincy. Gin is cool, I don't want to see him die again, so I would prefer that he stay out of the story for now, for his own safety. If he comes back now I feel like he will just get Orochimaro'd.

    I think the best case scenario is for chibi Gin to appear when Kubo does another Turn Back the Pendulum arc. I'm fine with remembering Gin as the bad ass that only lost to Butterflaizen until that time
    How can his Bankai ever be stolen? He went Bankai only after he stabbed Aizen through his chest. So, I can't see enough time to steal his Bankai, unless someone can do it while being poisoned also. Even so, the one that got stabbed is done at every case, provided, of course, Gin lands the hit and goes Bankai.
    Yet, even if they steal Gin's Bankai, wasn't his Bankai dissolving itself and spreading its poison? So, in theory, Gin hits right through a Sternritter's body, goes Bankai, then, assuming the Sternritter steals it somehow and finds a way (I don't know if it's possible for a human to survive that Bankai) to live, now what does it mean? What did it steal? He couldn't have stolen the whole sword as we saw in Byakuya's case. They can steal only and only Bankai's power.
    I'm assuming that the medallion then would have got a small crack of a sword, which is pretty much useless on its own. So, from my point of view, not only Gin can stand a chance against a Sternritter, but also he would be a very dangerous opponent for most with his Bankai. The sole thing is he needs to be fast enough to pinpoint the opponent with only his Shikai.
    We can't say yes or no to this possibility, in my opinion, as we're yet to see the real quickness of Sternritter.

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    Hmm, the creepy part of Gin is his speed and lack of "presence" (knowing he's going to attack). As we saw, speed is dangerous to SR because they must keep defending. I doubt Gin's bankai would do that well against Blut (not that it wouldn't pierce, but it'd take some non-zero time; Gin's bankai isn't focused on strength but on speed), and shikai even more so. However, the SR wouldn't be able to do anything because of that speed - the moment an SR goes on the attack, he gets stabbed. A similar thing to Ichi's bankai, I guess (just that Gin's shikai is already extremely fast).

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back.

    Quote Originally Posted by conn-man View Post
    Just read the page(words and art) and over again you'll realize that gin is dead.

    If gin survived, then he would need to be healed by division 4 troops. If he was then he would also have been arrested along with aizen. He wouldnt be allowed to leave.
    i know u posted this long time ago, but i think Gin is alived, first is cause if u read the manga (SPOILER ALERT!)
    even Azien just got release.

    So if he got capture but not included in the maga , he chould be alive,
    and second is that even when slashed he open his eyes to see ichigo, tho he said the whould like die, he chould suvive.

    and to all brats out there that SS dont release prisoners, : captain of 12 squad, AIZEN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BASED Shinigami View Post
    Gin is dead IMO but if he still is alive out there somewhere i doubt he'll play any role in plot going forward because even though he was like a "double agent"(he tried to stop Aizen in the end and failed horribly lol) Soul Society..more specifically Central 46 isn't going to stretch out warm arms to a former captain who aided Aizen sama who is now one of SS most infamous convicted criminals, Gin is an accomplice to a man who wanted to overthrow the Spirit King..that can't be forgiven...most people can agree on that.
    Aizen got forgiven so hahaha why chould not Gin get that aswell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    I think and aizen are both coming back through flashbacks. There are plenty of story elements where they could and should have had a part with, specially when it comes to things about urahara and the king. It'd be interesting if we see aizen's bankai through flashbacks.
    Azien is back now hehe

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bromamura View Post
    I hope he's the one who attacked Kirge. I hope I hope.
    I held my thoughts and opinion regarding the possibility being him for the longest time! Didn't want anyone thinking pure fanboy implications just because

    All jokes aside, if we were to compare the reaction level Urahara had could simply be the unexpected level even Urahara himself wasn't prepared for. As mentioned by 0Xellos, his zan is one that greatly emphasize speed and distance. With that said, no one was around the area during that time and the arrancars version of a shunpo hasn't been justified to cover such distance regardless if it was grimmjow or anyone stronger. Still no reason for Gin to point his zan to Urahara though unless it's someone who knows who he is and despises Shinigami, Ulqi theory anyone? *grabs popcorn.

    A big reason for Gin's comeback is for the girl too. It'd be the best case scenario for Rangiku to have the love of her life, other than Ichigo + Orihime and Rukia + Renji, these two have a much stronger bond with the past history supporting them.


    Until Bleach finishes, the possibility being Gin who rescued Urahara is still there. Perhaps he's the new leading figure for the arrancars? They all had great fear and disdain for Aizen but not as great for Gin if I remember correctly.
    Until then, the obvious is still Grimmjow since Kubo has yet to reveal him back in this arc for whatever reason.
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    Gin is one of my favorite characters and one of the best in bleach. I would love to see him back (although that would be shitty plot and story writing). However, I doubt he was the one that killed kirge. Ichigo got to know about gin's intentions, he wouldn't be worried about urahara like that and urahara wouldn't need to work a deal with him. Gin also wouldn't be so anxious to talk to ichigo (and the speech bubble doesn't match gin's way of talking).

    Although gin pointing his sword at urahara is possible because he just that kinda dude but nothing else matches up.

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    I thought Gin was already confirmed dead by Kubo in an interview, anyway, so, this thread does not make that much sense anymore, sadly

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowdemon View Post
    I held my thoughts and opinion regarding the possibility being him for the longest time! Didn't want anyone thinking pure fanboy implications just because

    All jokes aside, if we were to compare the reaction level Urahara had could simply be the unexpected level even Urahara himself wasn't prepared for. As mentioned by 0Xellos, his zan is one that greatly emphasize speed and distance. With that said, no one was around the area during that time and the arrancars version of a shunpo hasn't been justified to cover such distance regardless if it was grimmjow or anyone stronger. Still no reason for Gin to point his zan to Urahara though unless it's someone who knows who he is and despises Shinigami, Ulqi theory anyone? *grabs popcorn.

    A big reason for Gin's comeback is for the girl too. It'd be the best case scenario for Rangiku to have the love of her life, other than Ichigo + Orihime and Rukia + Renji, these two have a much stronger bond with the past history supporting them.


    Until Bleach finishes, the possibility being Gin who rescued Urahara is still there. Perhaps he's the new leading figure for the arrancars? They all had great fear and disdain for Aizen but not as great for Gin if I remember correctly.
    Until then, the obvious is still Grimmjow since Kubo has yet to reveal him back in this arc for whatever reason.

    Kubo confirmed, that Gin is very, very dead. (Which met big "booo" from the fans) Also it's confirmed that a person who rescued Urahara is Grimmjow. Catchphrase and his one-and-only pants. Unless Gin got resurrected as a Hollow, got on VL level by eating Grimmjow and took his pants, and then wanted to fight Ichigo shouting to the microphone. Well, completely out of character. And he also decided to slash instead of, as the name "Spear" suggests, thrust (yeah, he also liked to fight "old fashioned way"). Aaand sound effect that was drawn next to Urahara's face was Sonido. Can think of more reasons, but he's dead. I know we're all in denial stage but we have to accept it. Gin's dead, he's not coming back. He doesn't even have a heaven to go to.

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    Re: Is Gin dead? And if not, do you think he's coming back?

    Somehow its better than gin went out with a bang. He succeeded in bringing down evolved aizen to his knees before plot intervened. These days everyone is getting embarrassed one way or the other. Kyoraku, yama, shunsui, byakuya, even the RG, SK list goes on.
    Gin doesn't need his image tainted by these Quincy dudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    Gin is one of my favorite characters and one of the best in bleach. I would love to see him back (although that would be shitty plot and story writing). However, I doubt he was the one that killed kirge. Ichigo got to know about gin's intentions, he wouldn't be worried about urahara like that and urahara wouldn't need to work a deal with him. Gin also wouldn't be so anxious to talk to ichigo (and the speech bubble doesn't match gin's way of talking).

    Although gin pointing his sword at urahara is possible because he just that kinda dude but nothing else matches up.

    I would agree with this. I guess we dont need to argue whether he is alive or not for plot reason since Rangiku is already dead (zombified). Not sure if Mayuri can reverse the process. So there is no point for Gin to be back.

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