garp clearly knows haki, and is strong enough to be one of the better rokushiki users (he throws cannonballs like they were bullets fired from a gun)
i don't think BB having the GG fruit is an issue here
garp has no DF either, so the darkness fruit is not an issue
it's probably his age i'd be concerned about
garp in his prime, like WB, would have easily slaughtered blackbeard imho (guaranteed win, though the fight would be long)
I mean now? it scares me to think that BB accidentally be cornered by garp in the new world. And when that happens BB will, of course, will retaliate and kill Garp in the process.. Prolly Oda is showing that, black beard is not the carrier of the Will of D but the killer of them... ? what'ya think?
Garp stomps during his prime but Blackbeard is considered one of the last boss or the last boss so I don't think Garp will win now mainly because of his old age....
I don't think there will be cornering with Garp and BB because IIRC Garp already retires and just having a good long and boring vacation at his hometown...
Don't you think that Garp might come for cold blood revenge since BB was the one who gave in Ace to the marines? And the fight between them is pretty possible....
I dont realy think that BB is a good fighter at all. Even more i think that he is a coward and dirty and only thing that give him any edge is two DF powers.
If they were to fight and Garp was close to winning with the intent to kill him don't you think Blackbeard would just call for his crewmates? Assuming they're there too of course. It's the kind of guy he is, he acts confident and tough until he's faced with possibility he might die...in which case he chickens out unlike the other D's. I realize this wasn't the case in his fight with Ace but I believe that's because he was confident in his victory, no matter what he said before their final clash.
Anyway, on to the main point. This is a pretty tricky matchup. No matter how much I visualize a fight between these two I can't see who the winner would be. I'd say Blackbeard has the advantage mainly due to Garp's old age. While old age hasn't been shown to hold Garp back thus far two years has passed and he's gotten even older. Not to mention all he's probably been fighting the past two years are wannabe pirates in East Blue. To sum it up; it's in Blackbeard's favor but I can't determine who would win.
Last edited by Shinobuden; April 04, 2012 at 05:15 AM.
I think a lot of you are underselling Blackbeard a bit. We can't forget that for starter's he was going against Whitebeard, who was considered the strongest man in the world. The same Whitebeard who put down Admiral Akainu for a good amount of time. Also, Blackbeard is arrogant as s**t. When he got his devil fruit, he let himself get hit unnecessarily in his fights. DO you know why I say this? I say this because Shanks himself had vouched for Blackbeard's power. He stated he wasn't being careless, so once upon a time, Blackbeard was a threat before he got his Yami Yami fruit.
If these two were to fight, alone and with no backup, Garp would only have a slight chance of winning imo. Age is a large factor in this battle and if Garp lets up too much, a combination of Vortex and and a quake infused punch could end him.
Garp would win. Akainu would have won too,if Bb hadn't run away leaving bonney there. BB's rogia would be useless against garp because there would be no DF to absorb.
Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if Garp just won on the grounds that BB is a coward and would avoid the fight altogether.
Last edited by eefrit; April 04, 2012 at 04:20 PM.
I think BlackBeard would win. He was capable of defeating Ace in a one on one battle before his power boost and a trip to the new world. I think it's safe to say he might have haki. If not then he won't be much of a challenge for Luffy and shouldn't be a Yonkou now.
Now as for Young Garp vs Time Skip BlackBeard...I'm not sure. I still may give it to BlackBeard.
I consider Blackbeard to be awful as a primary antagonist and villain, but he does have some combat ability. He was able to take on Shanks, at least to some extent according to Shanks' own account, prior to obtaining the Yami Yami no Mi. That would suggest even without his fruit he was a formidable opponent. Now in possession of two very powerful devil fruits, and with Garp's advanced age, I would say that Blackbeard, even with his seemingly unrivaled stupidity, is heavily favoured in a battle against Garp
Last edited by Impossibility; April 04, 2012 at 06:22 PM.
about haki,BB does have haki, here you are http://www.mangareader.net/103-17410...apter-552.html . BB told ace that he(BB) wasn't worth of becoming captain because he hadn't got that type of haki(and we know that ace had got the King haki),so he had the other types of haki or just one of them (CoA and/or CoO)