If Kishi blows this then I don't know what to say about romance in this manga.
This is true. Romance is the last thing on his mind. But Kishi can be unpredictable like with the Hinata-Pain confession. Things happen when you least expect it. I could totally see Naruto rescuing Sakura or Hinata out of nowhere.Quote:
Disappointing that she never even participated in a fight. But Sasuke x Sakura fans are quite happy Kishi is making no bones about her loving Sasuke. Naruto x Sakura fans on the other hand....Quote:
Naruto x Hinata fans were satisfied with her finding resolve when thinking about Naruto. Pretty obvious bone thrown to shippers.Quote:
True. The anime even played with the idea she might have a little crush on Naruto. But I doubt anything comes of it in the manga.Quote:
And probably will stay that way. Which goes against what Asuma said about not losing in love to Sakura. To be fair, Kishi ignored that part and concentrated on her being Team Mom to Shikamaru and Choji when they fought Asuma. So romance might actually get in the way of her character.Quote:
But he still has Sakura's love. Even trying to kill her won't stop her from loving him.Quote:
So there is stuff underneath the underneath. But this war had soooo much more potential. Think of all the interactions we could of had! I will wait till the end to judge it.
Last edited by Jessie; August 16, 2011 at 01:46 PM.
Idk although i can slightly agree it doesn't really feel like much when you are shown to one sided affections from the girls and no showing of the boys feelings as of now it just still feels like it was a pairing bone tossed to Naruhina and SasuSaku things are still pretty much stagnant ex: Naruto->Sakura, Sakura->Sasuke, Hinata->Naruto, Sasuke-> No one/ hatred/ his clans honor.
Outside of the "big 3" theres been no showing of anything really happening and even in the big 3 we basically got rehanded the same things we knew about the girls without any feedback or importance shown by the boys so imho nothing really important was given.
Oh I just thought of a good idea concerning the next chapter. It would be awesome if hinata once again jump in to save naruto from nagato's power. Wouldn't it be the perfect way to show how naruto feel about hinata if she save him again.
To be honest, i consider the Hinata thinking about Naruto and Sakura thinking about Sasuke as not real romantic developments at this point because it does not show any advancement in their feelings.
- Hinata is hung up on Naruto
- Sakura is hung up on Sasuke
Those should not be revelations to anybody at this point. It's not really a development because it's the status quo, and has been for a very very long time, just like...
- Naruto being too preoccupied with Sasuke
- Sasuke having a heart as black as coal
To have what i consider real romantic developments, i think you need the two characters involved to at the very least speak to one another. Is that too much to expect?
Last edited by Jammin; August 16, 2011 at 10:10 PM.
It is a development though, because it reveals that while Hinata is hung up on Naruto in the post-confession era, she likely did not receive reason to abandon her feelings.
When it comes to Sakura, because we have more information, it reveals that she was definitely lying to Naruto during her piece of shit confession, and she is fairly retarded to still be in love with a guy who tried to brain her twice.
I feel like in the romance aspect Kishi makes Hinata look (as she should) admirable in her reasons for protecting and liking Naruto. While Sakura each time we are shown her revived love and expression for Sasuke just looks more like she has no sense of pride and would easily crawl back to a guy who wants to kill her and cause a genocide of all "senju lovers". It seems like he wants us to dislike Sakura lol i mean she doesn't have to like Naruto (although i like Narusaku) but atleast make her independent and not rely on naruto to reignite her feelings for a guy who never liked her smh
While everyone likes to harp that Sasuke tried to kill Sakura, they always seem to forget that Sakura tried to kill Sasuke too. Maybe they were made for each other. But as for the "revelations" during the war it just showed the extension of the status quo. But it highlights two things, the NaruSaku argument was a shaky house of cards without a solid foundation, and I have to agree with jdw that the other revelation implies that Naruto didn't reject Hinata after the Pain arc. Of course ,they may not have met to talk about it either. It wouldn't be the first time Kishi has neglected romance in this series.
Idk if i can even call it a relationship at this point cause that would actually imply they had interraction more than a couple nice comments in part 1. Their is nothing really mutual about them. They don't share the same feelings. Only one of them actually cares Sasuke doesn't really cafe about anyone at this point other than in some small sense Naruto. I don't think he felt any betrayal on her part as he has convinced himself that everything that has happened is a betrayal by every man, woman and infant in Konoha who are "laughing" at Itachi's sacrifice. It is entirely dependent on Sakura pinning after someone who wants her dead I mean you can say its mutual unhealthiness on both there parts however Sakura wanted to kill Sasuke to protect him from sinking any lower and carry the burden by herself. Sasuke on the other hand just didn't give a sh*t and was fine with wiping her out because she was in the way of his hatred quest. I mean its hard not to be hard on Sakura when kishi makes her a character that is easily despised because of her selfishness and manipulation of Naruto. I mean she is always referred to as the human and "normal girl" character but what the hell type of abusive relationship seeking women does kishi know.
As for the Hinata part as much as I understand and admire her feelings its highly unlikely IMO that anything has changed in regards to naruto's feelings her romance unfortunately is kind of her anchor into plot revelance( not trying to be harsh its the same reason Sakura manages to resuface occasionally) I just wish they could be stronger characters without their only importance being romance. I mean as much as Brill and others criticize Narusaku standing its hard to feel any sort of developement after being shown two one sided ships with standings grounded only on the feelings of the two girls but thats just me. I mean neither have been touched in hundreds off chapters i mean as much as Narusaku is shaky idk its hard to say any of the pairings are "shakier" or less grounded than another imo. All three have some validity but imo SasuSaku is just degrading to Sakura's character and expects Sasuke to show love for someone other than his clan.
Last edited by pimp naruto kun; August 17, 2011 at 01:17 PM.
As for NaruHina...Well, I think that one chapter was enough to say that Hinata hasn't given up on Naruto. So it's still in the running.
I don't fault Sakura for still having feelings for Sasuke. Kishi is portraying it as an actual love more than just a schoolgirl crush. Is it healthy for Sakura? No. But it is not ridiculous like say Kishi having Ino cry over Sasuke and saying she would take revenge against Kumo if they killed him. Ino never even knew Sasuke or had any relationship with him like Sakura. That was just idiotic writing on Kishimoto's part in order to drag the rest of the Konoha 12 into Sasuke's plot. Thankfully he redeemed Ino during the war by strengthening her bonds with Shika and Choji. I also thought it was good to show Karin seeing Sasuke for what he truly was at the time.
I think the greatest fear I have is that Kishimoto will tie up all romance subplots as quickly as he has finished up many of the Edo Tensei zombie. As if he is in a rush. He can get away with that with side couples like Shika x Temari. But he needs at least a little time to develop any of the big three. Sasuke x Sakura needs a ton of work. We know Hinata loves Naruto, but what are his feeling for her? If Naruto now loves Hinata, I want to know WHY. Naruto has issues with Sakura and now that is ridiculously complicated if she still loves Sasuke. How will that be worked out if Kishi goes Naruto x Sakura?
My fear is that at the end of the manga, Sasuke will be redeemed and fall into Sakura's arms. Then Naruto having lost his true love will turn to the minor character Hinata, who we have barely seen in 100 chapters, and ask her out for some ramen. Giving everyone a happy ending with almost no time spent developing or making it believable.
Last edited by Jessie; August 17, 2011 at 10:02 PM.
More importantly, I just want to see something freakin' happen. ANYTHING. NarutoXSakura, NarutoXHinata, ShikamaruXTemari, whatever... As long as something gives some relationship at least the illusion of moving forward i'd be happy.
I wanna say i'd be ok with SakuraXSasuke to, but that would be a lie. She gets a hard enough time in this manga already, turning her into Sasuke's doormat would just be excessive; no matter how much Kishi hates her.
Perhaps it's time for Kishi to get Kakashi in the game. There are tons of attractive women in his age group, maybe the younger generation just needs an example to follow. I'd love to see the Mei Terumi pounce on him like a cat with a mouse.
Last edited by Jammin; August 17, 2011 at 11:22 PM.