Team Chocolate Love
zommari was matched against the worst opponent possible for him...... imagine if kenpachi saved rukia? oh christ... he would have ate himself...
on topic.... zommari is deadly with a partner. give him time to get a look at you and he can easily take control of hisagi to make this a 3 on 1. kensei hesitates to slash hisagi down and love then pummels them both with a fiery shot to the face. if kensei gets back up or even tries to dodge. then hes prey for zommari's ability. unless zommari can get speed blitz'd... which is hard against a guy as fast as him.... team chocolate love is dangerous. they win
So, have any of the arguments thus far taken into account Kensei's bankai, or is everyone just sticking to his shikai? I know some people feel Kensei's bankai is unfair to include, but it seems almost about as well-known an ability of his as his shikai.
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well might be and I apologize in advance if so), but the few times that we have seen Kensei use his shikai I don't think he has ever offered any sort of exposition on the mechanics of it. Each time, he releases, we see the combat knife form it takes, and then he ends up creating some huge explosion with it in some manner. The actual mechanics of his shikai are just theoretical in nature based off of visual information, right?
Now compare that to his bankai. We have seen the form and name of it, both of which seem to give some clue to its function. On the following page, we see a massive explosion in the background that looks very similar to the depiction to the explosion cloud created when he used Tachikaze on the hollow back in TBTP. We know that Kensei was using his bankai to fight against Wonderweiss, and we see Wonderweiss later on, suggesting that even despite the bankai WW prevailed somehow.
Is this not enough information on which one can have meaningful discussion on Tekken Tachikaze? I have seen people speculate here about things with even less source information than this. Is it just that Kensei and his bankai are not interesting enough to inspire talk about how his bankai might work?
^My first problem was that I wasn't sure if Kensei was the one who produced that explosion. Now when I think about it, base WW never really displayed any explosive attacks, so I think it's safe to assume that Kensei's Bankai did generate that explosion. Though, it's still speculative on how powerful that explosion really is, so I guess we can only use our imaginations..
Well, sure you have to use your imaginations to some degree to speculate on the power of the explosion, but how is that different than speculation for other characters? How powerful is Rose's Izayoi Bara or that mass of fire that Love launched at those wolves?
There is some amount of speculation to all of these attacks, but you are able to still use them for effective discussion.
Kensei's bankai or not, neither kensei nor hisagi has shown capabilities of using danku or the speed to counter zomarri.
Zomari can take full control of hisagi since his SP is higher than hisagi. And even though he can't do the same with kensei. If he control one of kensei's arms or leg, kensei would be handicapped... thus making his bankai quite moot... even though i like the guy... much more than love
Kensei's Bankai controls the wind, right? So what is Zommari going to do... control every air particle that comes his way? I think Kensei using wind attacks against Zommari would be game over for Zommari pretty quickly. With regard to speed, Zommari could blitz Hisagi, sure, but Kensei? He's a Captain level fighter who also gains a speed boost from his mask, I'm sure he's Zommari's equal in terms of speed.