kinemon's is called fire-fox kinemon because is sword burns enemies, and I think this zatoichi dude's sword crushes enemies. the samurai in wano get their power from their special swords. kinemon had no idea what a devil fruit is, therefore i think the metal they use to make their swords have some properties from the devil fruits. maybe a connection between sea-stone and devil fruits will be revealed!
"what if I were to try burning it?"
"...can burn as it slices my foes"
"cuts with the power of fire"
Last edited by Kaiten; March 10, 2013 at 04:48 PM.
Fossa cant agree with you that using fire katana is so special to only samurai from Wa.
Boa sisters were said to be proficient haki users and one of them gotten on fire few pages later- if you say that its because of her theme you dont want to see some things as they are. Luffy was said by Blackbeard during Impel Down fight to have haki and even more- he commented on Luffys haki being stronger than last time they met. For me Blackbeard knows more about haki than you thats for sure So if Luffy was able to use haki without knowing it then why Sanji cant? For me Monster Trio awokened their haki before time skip. If Coby who was one shotted by Luffy during war had haki then why Zoro and Sanji- beside Luffy - couldnt have it, at very base level, without knowing what it is and how it works.
When it comes to your interpretation of Red Hawk it has even less sense then what I wrote, its your free interpretation of Rubber+Haki+Gear Second= Fire. Sorry but I dont buy it. For me we might see in future Luffy using black CoA and Gear Second without getting on fire, so fire would be special manifestation/form of haki.
But I do agree that cutting fire and explosion may be and most probably is secred sword technique.
Is there a chance for early chapter by tomorrow? Does anybody know?
Last edited by vagabond87; March 11, 2013 at 05:02 AM.
Hum concerning Marigold, Miyamoto is right. She is using matches to start the fire. The only thing haki related is that it helps her not being burned. Concerning Kinemon, it is more interesting if his fire techniques are not related to the sword. Fire swords can exist too but Wano samourais would be more interesting if each dojo had developped a specific sword style. I guess one will know more when we will the other ones in a fight.
Luffy only uses CoA Hardening in his base form or in G3 (Elephant Gun, the fight against Hodi, the fight against CC and the Yeti brothers) while he uses only "normal" CoA in his G2 form. The only exception is Red Hawk which was the first time he used both G2 and Hardening. So, it is not my opinion or something, it is the depiction of the manga.
The commander of the WB Pirates has been a member for 20 years, meaning that he was in the NW for 20 years. It is not unthinkable that he went to Wa No and learned the technique, considering that Ace could also roam freely on Wa No, even learning how to make a straw hat for Oars.
We saw only Marigold using maches to het haki burning, Sanji used heat from spinning to go for diable jambe, Fossa could have even used his cigar. Clould have but non confirms that he did. So perhaps haki can feed fire or get heaten up like for example metal, like extremly dense oxygen or something like that but still I dont see how Luffy set his haki on fire though. Still Im sure that Kinemons techniques are more about haki than sword that he uses.
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Last edited by vagabond87; March 11, 2013 at 05:11 AM.
When it comes to people using fire in fights haki is always in play to some degree. It would be bad if you deny that only haki users were shown to use fire on their weapons/ parts of body.
And I know we gotten quite off the topic here so if any of mods decide to remove our posts then let it be in haki discussion thread. Do not delete them please.
Last edited by vagabond87; March 11, 2013 at 04:57 AM.
And again, there is no correlation between fire users and Haki.
They could have not seen CoC in action, dont know what it is. But to say that Fishman dont know haki is not wise. Even queen Otohime was hinted to be pretty good CoO user more than once. But believe whatever you want, this discussion to me has no sense anymore. So Im out of it.
what do you think?sorry for being off-topic.
Last edited by takneeque; March 11, 2013 at 08:23 AM.
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