Team Big Gunz
Team Raggs to Riches
Last edited by Omiem; March 13, 2011 at 01:46 PM. Reason: The souls topic doesn't really matter..
i guess there point defending my vote for barragan to beat starrk.
barragans speech http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-...82-page-4.html
"Humans die, animals die, plants die and even Shinigami die. For everything that dies, there is age, too. If things that humans create can die, then Kidō, created by Shinigami, is no different. As Kidō may last for a thousand years. But it cannot last forever."
a soul does not last forever so respira can age starrks wolves
and errr yeah shinigami are souls...why do you think ichigo switches from human body to soul form when he used the shinigami badge or kon
nothing lasts forever which is why he was so damn haxx ..barragan can age everything
Last edited by Hystzen; March 13, 2011 at 02:09 PM.
Anyways, if Barragan didn't age the explosion with TDF, then his entire body would've been obliterated. Tell me, how does Barragan lose his left skull side and not his right skull side? Or, how does Barragan lose his right arm and not his left arm?
EDIT: Actually, looking back at your post, I think you were implying about something else. If so, then ignore what I just said.
Last edited by Omiem; March 13, 2011 at 04:46 PM.
Look at what Love & Rose say about them:
First they were flames:
Then they were cero's:
Stark explains that it is neither, it are parts of his soul:
Age and time only applies to physical things, a soul wont be affected by either.
shinigami are souls just made of particles which normal humans cant see or even touch the plane they walk on ..same with hollows they can hurt humans but not be seen by them.
people like ichigo with high SP can see them even touch them
this was all covered in the first chapter
only time they have a physical body are with gigai which is why they have them in first place as rukia explained when she appeared in one
Last edited by Hystzen; March 13, 2011 at 02:33 PM.
Team Big Gunz for the win here. I think at this point it's clear Matsumoto is superior to Omaeda in almost everything shown between the two except shunpo/speed. Barragan vs Starrk is the real match-up here. People have there opinions on who was the stronger Espada and mine is Starrk. I know Barry was hax but overall he was not as good as Starrk. Starrk had great analytical skills, far better swordsmanship, combat speed, he was a real generalist. Barragan had nothing to offer or that was note worthy that impressed me but respira. Starrk has enough force and firepower to overwhelm his TDF imo.
Team Big Gunz wins this.Barragan's respira can age a one shot bankai from Soifon,but had Soifon been able to sustain that attack of her,I believe sooner or later she would have overpowerd Barragan's respira due to him running out of reaitsu to maintain the respira/TDF.In this case Stark has the higer reaitsu reserve than Barragan do,which means as long as Stark keeps his distance,he can continue to spam cero's at Barragan,until Barragan reaitsu reserve is depleted,thus leaving Barragan,with no defense from Stark ceros or wolves.Matsumoto vs Omaeda isn't even a fight,since Matsumoto seems much stronger than Omaeda.
Basically Starrk vs Barragan - I think Baraggan wins. Starrk being #1 isn't much of an argument imo, just means he has slightly higher Reiatsu than Barragan - not more lethality.
Respira is just too deadly - and if a direct hit from Soifon's Bankai can only break off a bit of his "skull", I am not aware of what Starrk can do to hurt him, Starrk seems to be more about spamming lots of weaker (now I'm not saying weak, I'm saying individually they are weaker than Soifon's Bankai) attacks, and I just don't know if he can take him down.
Starrk will outrun Respira until he gets tired / gives up, then Barragan wins. My feeling is that Starrk's ceros / wolves will deplete his Reiatsu more quickly than Barragan's Respira will deplete his - but that's just my opinion. Therefore at the moment I'm siding towards Rags to Riches.