Not to be over analytical but then how can Hidan be included? His entire fighting style revolves around his enemies not knowing what he can do. If they know he needs their blood, he becomes little more than TenTen but if they don't know hes nearly invincible (much more so than Sasori with his poisons).Quote:
Because it'd be a 2 vs 1 (or a 4 on 1 battle in the case of ET) battle which is not fair.Quote:
I agree with the no ET. The should be directly based on the opponents intrinsic and individual skills, not their ability to have someone else do their work for them.
so are summoning available to use in battle like jiriaya and naruto using frogs, oro and kabuto snakes?
That basically means that "Itachi's sickness will not be an issue for him" no?
What I suggest is that there should be a limit for Itachi using at least Susanoo. e.g. with not as great frequency as Sasuke.
Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciated!
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After further discussion Gai and Lee's limits have been taken away. They will both be able to use as many gates as they've shown in the manga. Meaning 7 for Gai and 5 for Lee. Thanks for all the posts guys, it's great to see you all so interested in the tournament
You raise a good question with the eyesight issue. Let me put it shortly. Like it was said in the rules thread, Itachi and Kimimaro are as strong as they've been shown. Let's face it, Itachi was more than strong enough even as a 95% blind man. His eyesight isn't any better than shown in the manga, BUT it won't get worse in battle no matter how much he uses MS. The extent of how much he can use MS is therefore solely based on his stamina level and how much pain he can take from using Susano'o.
Summary: Itachi and Kimimaro are just like they were before their death. However their sickness won't hinder them in terms of making them cough up blood and fall over and die. It doesn't function as a time limit.
Nagato, Madara, Naruto & Sasuke
This can't really be compared to Nagato as he had to be given healthy legs to be able to fight in his own body. Pain is still by far the strongest fighter in the manga and would break the power cap in the tournament with the lack of info we have about Madara, Naruto and Sasuke. Since we know literally nothing about Sasuke's new powers, he's just as strong as shown in the manga, meaning MS Sasuke with 100% eyesight (because of EMS, that's all we know about it). Naruto is like he has shown so far, and we don't know much about his powers while in Rikudou Mode, so he too isn't much stronger (if at all) than he was against Kyuubi.
I will update the rules to clear up some issues. Take in mind that things can change like with every other detail as the actual launch is a while away, plus new info can arrive (especially in Kimimaro's case)
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Kirabi, Ee, Sasori, Kakuzu, and possibly Deidara are all opponents not effected greatly by genjutsu and Gai, Ee, Gaara, Danzo, Orochimaru, and Kakuzu are all that are either fast enough to evade Amaterasu or strong enough to tank a hit.
I agree with Rikudou. The whole notion of MS/EMS as being the end all of all jutsu as sort of taken a hit as the skill level of shinobi has gone up. Way back in Part I, Kakashi made Itachi's genjtusu abilities out to be godly, Sure they are when you put them against Asuma and Kurenai. However, as the series has developed, the stronger characters don't really seem to even bat an eye at the thought of them. I mean, when Sasuke attacked the Kage Summit, both Raikage and Mei didn't even seem to care that Sasuke was an Uchiha and had a Sharingan. It's a non factor as far as they are concerned. Now certainly that doesn't meant that they have a simple counter to it, but that also doesn't mean that they will easily be hit by it.
As for Hidans abilities, I would say that they are unknown to everyone. The same with Kakazu's five hearts and that each of them carry a element with them. Secret techs will not be known to others.
Would it be possible to give a fixed amount of info on the 6 paths of Pein in order for him to not be so over powered... along with a restriction...
Like for instance....
-Negato(The Main Body) doesn't have to be killed in order to win
-Pein cannot bring his bodies back to life (so no Naraka/Outer path)
-All enemies know 1 body summons, 1 body controls gravity, 1 body absorbs ninjutsu, & 1 body blows up stuff... but not which one does what..
-Asura could be included and Human could be sidelined...
This brings the number of Peins to 4... No Asura and no Naraka
You are left with
Deva Path - Gravity Manipulation, And he can make it rain
Animal Path - Summonings
Asura - Long Range, Projectiles
Preta Path - The path who can Tank attacks (But not Taijutsu)
With Human, Asura, & Naraka gone... the fights seem a lot more even, he keeps his strategy and signature moves, and other people have a fighting chance...
With the info, people with brains (i.e. Kakashi) and people with power (i.e. Raikage) have equal oppurtunity... and everyone in the top Tier now has a fighting chance again...
Pain is simply too overpowered, even if Nagato isn't that bright. It's better if it's Nagato vs. whatever since the enemy stands more of a chance winning. Nagato still has most of his power we've seen, like Shinra Tensei and summoning, so I have no idea why there's some complaints. I'm sure he'll be able to walk on his two legs in this fight.
are awarethink that Nagato's nothing without his bodies.
Nagato already wins this IMO...Definitely the most powerful ninja we have seen within the series and as Nagato not Pain, he can use all the jutsu the 6 paths could use in one body which is much more convenient and effective IMO....Even as Pain he would win this tournament. But some of the match ups should be interesting, looking forward to them...
Naruto, Gai, Konan, Sasori, Sasuke, Itachi, Jiraiya, Minato, Orochimaru, and even Kakashi thanks to Kamui all stand a great chance of defeating Nagato.
Hell, if you ask me Gai would slaughter him as soon as he opened the gates it wouldn't even be a contest.
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quick question: who has samehada? Kisame or bee?
Kisame has Samehada. Kirabi has just his normal swords.
Kimmimaro wins low teir none of the others can hurt him in his teir
also why were the members of the sound 4 shafted from the low teir
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