2-Madara does not have the rinnegan in the tournament.
3-If the attack hit him before the Isanagi is activated the damage can't be reversed. We already got peeps that can hit him before he can react and activate Isanagi (Minato).
The manga never direcly showed it:
But considering he made contact with the other one knowing he would have to sacrifice 1 hand its damn obvious he needs to do it. That or Madara is a complate idiot that likes losing hands.
Again its not clear but i don't see why we would asume he is not making direct contact with her. He was damn close to her and he could easy put 1 hand on her.
Considering the effort Madara showed to put into making conact with people before warping them in all his fight i am going with the "need of contact".
Last edited by xXan; May 28, 2011 at 03:52 PM.
What's with all the Sasuke vs Madara talk. Personally, I don't think Madara will make it pass Nagato or Itachi.
how strong is hanzo in this fight? is he as he was when he fought mifune or the sannins or is he as he was when he died against Pain? and has A got his left arm as well?
All the characters are fighting with full conventions, so Hanzou would be as strong as he was against Mifune and the Sannins. And yeah, Ee has both arms.
he doesn't need it,gai can't attack tobi for a long time as konan did,and anyway he survived with izanagi,then there's no fight here.to defeat tobi it's needed someone much stronger than gai.
Because someone was labeled sasuke as unbeatable and a godlike because of his sharingan/MS..
from low, meduim and large
Then jiraiya has a large chakra pool while sasuke has a low chakra pool..
And if jiraiya is in hermit mode, then imagine ma and pa gathering sage chakra just for him.. An unlimited supply of sage chakra..
EMS is combination of his eyes + itachi's eyes.. and if itachi is part of this tournament, then sasuke doesn't have an EMS.. not unless, itachi was an edo tensie'd..
Will there be a loss bracket for this tournament?
Sasuke wields a far Greater collections of ninjutsu than jiraiya.? wow.. really.? What would it be.?
and what's next.?
kamehameha or ray gun,?
Jiraiya was born at the age of war.. He was an old man compared to sasuke.. So basically, jiraiya possess the greater collections of ninjutsu..
Sasuke has displayed far more strategic planning than Jiraiya.? and again, what would it be.?
1. He use his lightning on deidara's clay and because of his strategic planning, he knows that earth is weaker than lightning..
2. He use his strategic planning on danzo, and with that, he knows that danzo's jutsu will be ended if all of the sharingan's eyes will be close..
3. Because of his strategic planning, itachi has been hit by his shuriken techniques.
Wow.. if he going to analyzed every strategy planning of sasuke, we can conclude that he is indeed a great strategist than jiraiya..
Take note : The only techniques/jutsu of sasuke that needs a considerable amount of chakra is his MS power.
Sasuke has EMS and should have it, otherwise we should take away anything that were given to a character from a sacrificial act such as ;
Itachi giving EMS to Sasuke
Minato giving Kyuubi to Naruto
If we take EMS away, Kyuubi needs to be taken away, and i dont think such thing is needed, they both have and should keep them.
Jiraiya obviously has the experience and knowledge that Sasuke doesnt have, but strategy wise? I don't give this to Jiraiya, Sasuke is more than just a good tactician, he's clearly genius caliber.
And i really dont get how using his MS powers would be his downfall.
He's been testing his MS powers throughout the Kage summit as well as the starting part of Danzo's fight, he doesnt need to test them anymore, that thing is over.
As for the Susano / Madara argument
It's actually very likely that Susano would defend against Madara's warping ability as anything that is inside Susano prevent anything to enter it's defense unless it breaks it.
The user pretty much controls what enters and what gets out of Susano as shown when Susano is under the Baku's suction yet Sasuke throws a Katon through Susano without himself not being harmed / under the effect of the wind.
So it'd make a lot of sense for Susano to break the link between it's inside and outside once it's summoned.
So it makes sense for Susano to prevent Madara's warping ability to work if Susano is up or being summoned as it happens.
For that reason, i dont see why the likes of Sasuke, Itachi, Rikudou Naruto, Minato or even Raikage for that matter could defeat Madara.
Sasuke does wield a greater collection of ninjutsus. The ones he wields can be employed to help in multiple situations, as oppose to Jiraiya's collection with are only usable in certain situations. And growing up in a time of war does not mean that Jiraiya would have a greater collection.
Sasuke has displayed more strategic planning.
- Against Orochimaru, he struck when he was weaken and used his opening attack to trap Orochimaru's arms.
- Against Deidara, used two thrown shurikens to force Deidara to move to the spot where he wanted, right over his sword, in order to give himself a boost and cause Deidara to fall upon his own mines. All while testing the limits of Deidara's clay. Sasuke also prepared ahead a time an escape route in the form of Suigetsu summoning Manda.
- Against Itachi, he proceeded to wear Itachi down before using Kirin.
- Against Danzo, he figured out the workings of Izanagi early on in the battle and attacked as so to force their usage up, along with testing to see whether Tsukuyomi would work on Danzo.
As for Sasuke using costly techniques, Chidori cost enough chakra to limit the number of times it could be used in a single day. It's variations should cost about the same. His Great Dragon Fire technique was also said to cost a lot of chakra. He has also made several Great Fireballs that were huge, which would have taken much chakra. Also, he was able to summon Manda when he was already worn out. In two separate battles, Sasuke has used at least six different MS techniques while using several of his other techniques.
Err, was Sasuke called that way in the manga? Or I'm not understand what you're trying to say there...Quote:
Based on what?Quote:
A large chakra pool doesn't solve everything.Quote:
Technically he wouldn't even have his MS since Itachi being alive.Quote:
This is something I don't understand in this tournament. Naruto apparently has his Bijuu Mode, but Sasuke only has MS. Madara also doesn't have his Rinnengan. Kabuto is made useless because you cannot summon human characters. So basically, every "bad guy" is handicapped to unimaginable levels.
As for Madara + his rinnengan and Kabuto + Edo Tensei, it's simply way too overpowered. Edo Tensei can only be handled via a soul sealing jutsu or that jutsu where they wrap them up. Besides, it would also defeat the purpose of the whole 1 vs 1 thing and it takes a ridiculous amount of prep time for it. Madara's case would be obvious since no one in the tournament would be able to win against him with all that power.
Even if Sasuke were to have EMS, what would he do with it? Giving him usage of MS already removes his blindness (even though we have no proof that he isn't blind), but other than not going blind, do you know what the final jutsu is of EMS? If so, then I also think Sasuke should have it, but if you do not, what is the point?