So far, the only person that has been established that can do long ranged genjutsu is Itachi, but the manga also stated he can't control too many people at once.
Nagato was only able to control that many bodies over a greater distance due his chakra rods, which also had a distance limit.
I don't think Genjutsu is a proper way to control a Pain body, since any Ninja would be able to break Madara's control over a body by simply breaking the genjutsu casted over them. And breaking genjutsu casted over somebody else is a fairly easy trick in the NarutoVerse.
Once Naruto killed that Pain, Nagato wasn't able to bring life back to the Pains again.
I mean, as far corpses go, since those Pains were also corpses.
The rinnegan supposedly can cast all jutsus, so I would expect Nagato to be able to use ET too.
But his jutsu over life and death was even more powerful than the ET, since he could bring somebody back form the dead for real. No fake bodies like ET.
I still don't think genjutsu is a good option to control those Pains. Controlling through ET itself sounds a much better option to me.
But I could be wrong.
Last edited by Lexotan; June 28, 2011 at 06:51 PM.
Why is everyone saying Sasuke is going to copy and have Raiton Armor? He isn't Kakashi, he only copied Lee's taijutsu technique and that's it. I'm sure raiton armor looks simple but if it was that simple anyone with that nature chakra would be able to do it. Just like Rasengan, Raiton Armor has no hand seals so I don't see him copying it. If it was just a normal tech with hand seals and using raiton then yeah i would accept him copying it, but its not like that.
If i may add my 2 cents in this dc about how Madara is controlling the new 6 paths. I think its through the sharingan, not necessarily that its a genjutsu; i think that these sharingans are Madara's own "rods". That these sharingans is Madara's way to control them like how Nagato controlled the 6 paths through his rods. The rinnegan is there for an enhanced control and the shared vision ability which also allows Madara to control them simultaneously.
I don't know if you mentioned it here but: isn't it Kishimoto's mistake to state that a sealed soul cant be summoned in ET? I'm asking this because: who would Orochimaru have brought back to life when he summoned Shodai and Nidaime? Who was there in the third coffin that Sandaime stopped?
I always thought it'd be Yondaime, as unlikely it is (knowing that he was sealed in the shinigami's belly).
If that's not it, that would be who? Uchiha Izuna (madara's brother?)? Or even Madara?
That should be the same coffin that Kabutomaru used to win his argument with Madara right?
Saying that, the technique could have just failed even if Sandiame didn't stop it, or perhaps it did fail and the Old man actually failed in stopping it, but thought he did because it failed.
Nagato can't revive bodies dead for a while, though it may be different with Tobi. He was able to control the corpses by using chakra rods.
Yea, these ET summons have probably had some sort of jutsu used on them that will make sure they are loyal to Madara, and likely can't be controlled by Kabuto.
Remember, even if the original summoner of Edo Tensei dies, the Edo Tensei summon would still be active, so Kabuto isn't actually necessary for these things to function. All Madara did was skip a step, he didn't wait for Kabuto to die before he took control of the 6 Jinchuuruki.
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In the Official Shonen English release of the chapter, Orochimaru himself thought that Hiruzen managed to stop the Third. He seem to have learned the true reason later for why the Third Coffin really failed, but he definitely didn't know the true reason at the start.
Perhaps he found out the true reason when Hiruzen used the Shiki Fuujin against him and explained it.
The Third himself sounded unsure of how he stopped the Third Coffin example, but he did, in fact, feel as if he had somehow managed to stop it.
I don't know why people think Madara Edo Tensei'd the Jinchuuriki, he simple revived them using the Rinnegan to create his own 6 Paths of Pain. Makes complete sense. 6 Available Jinchuuriki, 6 Paths needed and Madara possess the Rinnegan.
Just because Madara learned of the secret behind Edo Tensei does not mean he used it. Its clear that Madara used the Jinchuuriki as the 6 Paths of Pain.