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The only real problem is genjutsu here, but I addressed that problem a bit earlier
Wait Orochimaru has the wood- suppression poison?
We never saw him using it, let alone if it has to be prepared beforehand or not.
Escaping the roots...well that's a bit nit picking IMO, because it was shown that Kawarimi is something that can be used on a large area...Oro would just to the switch to a place where there are no trees...
And trapping Yamata no Orochi is not the real issue here...Yamata no Orochi is huge, that will give Orochimaru time to escape the trees before it's impossible to escape...so it's just a measure to buy time and create an opening
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I don't see Oro having the reacting time to escape a trap while being under the darkness genjutsu.
Oro has never been shown as a ninja that acts on instinct, in fact, most of the time he just lulz it off, takes the beating and then barfs a new body: he wont be able to do it when he is either taken off by the genjutsu, reacting to it, or just thinking: heh, this is nothing.
Mokuton no jutsu has a lot of strength, enough to hold bijuu, and if a gigantic tree is grown around Oro while stabbing him and holding him into place, he won't be able to even open his mouth to use any jutsu, spit his sword out or even do handseals.
Theoretically, I think Hashirama would win this. However, he just have not shown enough for me to warrant him a win against Oro. I'd also hate to base every subsequent fight of his based on hype and lore. My vote goes to Oro.
but if he uses Yamata no jutsu the added size will brake him out of a small tree and it will allow him to destory any tree's that bind him with the Kusagari
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Stabbing the White Snake form will allow him to win so...
Also let's not confuse trees with bijuu controlling ability...the one as nothing to do with the other...it's not the strength of the trees that kept the Bijuus bound to his will, but his special chakra...
Orochimaru has tons of ways to escape being trapped by mokuton.
1: Summon a giant snake amidst the roots. He doesn't need handseals as he has the snake tattoos on his body. Just needs blood.
2: White Hydra Form. Not only will he grow bigger than the average boss-level summon, but he can move in and out between each giant head, and still fire his Kusanagi from the protection of his giant snake heads.
3: Kawarimi. Different from Oral Rebirth. Simply fooling the enemy into thinking he's crushing the real him when he's actualy crushing a blob of mud.
And if he doesn't want his snakes to die, Rashoumon can be summoned instead to break apart any roots or branches trapping him as it's far more durable than a giant snake. Gonna go ahead and give my vote to Orochimaru for the simple fact that this Genjutsu doesn't paralyze, it simply hinders your eyesight. He's perfectly capable of fleeing into the ground the instant his eyesight disappears.
Based on the jutsu in manga? What nonsense. This would mean that most ninja would beat the Rikudou Sennin, because he never showed jutsus.
This is kinda ridicilous. The author, Masashi Kishimoto already stated the degree of Hashiramas power. Hashirama is stronger by far. We do not even have to see all his jutsus.
And whose bright idea is that he has nothing which kills Orochimaru. In fact, people are acting like Orochimaru cant be killed, even though he just uses the right jutsus the right time. Orochimaru himself stated that Narutos chakra ball would have killed him for sure with a direct hit.
He is persistant, but as you saw he can be beaten like Sasuke did. Yeah he somehow remained, but he was clearly beaten. And yeah, I know he was weakend.
i just don't know oro is a slippery fighter to say the least he has jutsu for almost anything shodai has. Mokuton would help shodai but oro has the snakes and possibly a poison that can stop the mokuton. Shodai has one known genjutsu and suiton, and doton along with his great physical energy. If we look at their body of work shodai has far greater feats than oro so we can take those in to account but if we are going by just jutsu displayed shodai would be at a disadvantage.
And if the sage were to participate here he would be strapped to a chair and with blindfold...
We are not saying tat Oro cannot be killed at all...it's just that Shodai can't kill him...but if you know of a jutsu that can, please do tell
I think the game changing ability in this fight is Orochimaru's true form blood. If the fight gets to the point where Orochimaru uses his true form, then I can see the true forms blood stopping Hashirama in the same way it did Sasuke.