And how is he going to kill himself? When he opened 5 gates vs. Gaara he was exausted and hurt because he was 13-14 years old. He's now 16-17 and in better shape. As we saw when Gai opened 6 Gates against the Kisame clone, if your body is in shape and you don't leave the gates open too long you can be fine afterwards.
So, Lee is cut up and tired after opening 5 gates and what is Kimi? Is he fine? No, his brain is probably a mess from slamming into the side of his skulls repeatedly.
You imagine just some tiny bone spikes but what exactly prevents Kimimaro from making them thicker and just as long as Rock Lee's arms? He would be completely unable to land a hit on Kimis body without impaling himself.
Kimmimaro never even tried when fighting Lee he used his more powerful tech's on Gaara
Kimmimaro was dying Lee was not Kimmimaro was in much worse shape and was slaughtering Lee he was nowere near as fast as normal and Lee is not strong enough to break Kimmimaro's bones and he never will be
the gates will not be strong enough to hurt Kimmimaro they will just result in Lee's death and Kimmi being fine
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Lee was unable to break Gaara's sand defence with his gates while Kimmi could do so with a tackle Lee won't be able to break the bones no one can break the bones no one
Orochimaru said no ammont of physcal attack can break those bones he can cover his whole body in bones and defend from any angle
Lee kicked him with a gate active and it did sqat did not even flinch Lee's stronger but he is still a chunin
Also keep in mind he actually desired Kimimaro's Kekkei Genkai more then the Sharingan.
Why would Orochimaru with his freakish body and regeneration want this Kekkei Genkai so much if it wouldn't grant him physical invulnerability? From what we've seen from him he can already detach, stretch and regenerate his skeleton, so why would he want this Kekkei Genkai more then the Sharingan if those bones could be broken by Taijutsu?
From what we've seen they are strong enough to withstand even Chakra Stream weapons... the same type of weapons which cut through Kubikiribōchō like butter. This alone proves that his bones are actually much more dense and resilent then simple steel.
Seriously... this fight is like putting Bruce Lee against the Terminator -.-
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Pressure does not equal brunt force. Same concept how a submarine can be thousands of feet underwater, but when the force of an explosion from a torpedo hits it, it's structure can break and crack.
As for Orochimaru, he was proven wrong many times. Similar to how we were told only a MS user could stop Tsyukiyomi and Sasuke, Bee, and Danxou all saw through it somehow. Rules are made to be broken, just like Kimi's bones.
When did Lee activate a gate vs. Kimi? And does 1 gate from injured 14 year old Lee equal the force of full strength 5 gates from 17 year old Lee? Not even close.
And Lee is a chunnin? Why is he a chunnin? Because he is weak? No, it's because he isn't a leader type like Jounin's are supposed to be. Ebisu is a fucking Jounin for crying out loud, is he stronger than Lee?
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Orochimaru stated he had the body he desired most, but not the Kekkai Genkai. His goal was to learn all the jutsu in the world, he couldn't do that with Kimi's Kekkai Genkai, he'd have to use Sasuke's.
Last edited by LnDRash; July 03, 2011 at 01:30 PM.
By that argument, Gaara should be dead. He got bounced around like a rubber ball on meth with Lee's Hidden Lotus and he was fine when he got up by coating himself in sand.Quote:
And if people get to spam the "Well, Lee was sick so he'll be much stronger now." argument then Kimi voters more than get the opportunity to argue the same thing. Kimi's illness was incredibly more devastating than Lee's and he still take care of Naruto, Lee and Gaara right after the other.
Last edited by White Silver King; July 03, 2011 at 01:40 PM.
we don't know if Lee can use more than 5 gates now,nor if he still can use the first 5. but I doubt that with 5 gates now he can overcome naruto powered by 9-tails and gaara. then Kimi wins!
For the torpedo example, it isn't the torpedo itself its the effects it has on the air inside the submarine. There is a reason the blast marks are generally coming OUT rather than going in. Its the same reason Depth charges were used to such effectivness.
About Ebisu, we haven't actually seen him fight so, he could actually be quite strong just not on the Kakashi/Gai level. I see him fairing against someone of Kurenai's standard. For all we know Ebisu could just use a genjutsu on Lee and win.
Finally about the Orochimaru, everything about him seems weird. Especially his body possession jutsu considering he was ment to have used one body from the Itachi confronation all the way to finally changing before Sasuke arrived, which is over 6 years. Yet his second one was already failing after 3? Would Sasukes or Kimis do the same? Never the less, I would imagine the Kaguya kekkei genkai to be similar to that of a Senjus supposed bloodline, in that he is physically superior in numerous ways. An Orochimaru with Sasukes body is scary, but so is Orochimaru with Kimimaros. From what we have been shown with his jutsu and healing Kimi has shown, it would take something unique to even damage Orochimaru; and even then he can just pop out a new body like nothing and I doubt the same trick works twice. (delete the Sharingan genjutsu from this statement :P )
lee is strong but not strong enough to defeat kimimaro and his Kekkei Genkai (Shikotsu Myaku), i hope to see kimimaro fighting soon now that he came back as ET zombie.
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Rock Lee did give Kimimaro a fight when they encountered each other in Part 1, but considering the hype Kimimaro had received, his databook statistics, and the fact that Lee came to the fight straight from an life-and-death operation, I'm inclined to believe that Kimimaro' prowess was heavily impaired by his sickness - which eventually killed him later in the battle.
That being said, Rock Lee in Part II can most likely match Kimimaro's Taijutsu prowess and speed, and with 5 gates open, could almost certainly outclass him in speed. But given Kimimaro's kekkei genkai; Shikotsumyaku, I heavily doubt that Rock Lee, even with gates, can inflict any significant injury to Kimimaro.
Consequently, I see the match going more and more in Kimimaro favour after Rock Lee has opened the gates, as the gates drain Rock Lee's strength and stamina more and more.
My vote goes to Kimimaro.
how is Gaara supposed to know that Kimmimaro is slower then normal he never met the guy Kimmimaro was badly impared
the only time he had difficulty with Lee was when he got drunk because he could not prodict him their
I have to go for kimimaru and by quite a bit. Kimimaru being defeated in a taijutsu fight seems extremely unlikely for the most part. For one thing, lee's style focuses on breaking bones and whatnot. In that regard he is in a big disadvantage as if kimimaru's bones are broken he can simply ripp them off and grown new ones. Kimimaru also has a pretty good bone armor, strong enough to withstand the earth pressure 200 meters underground and not be crushed. In that regard even getting to kimimaru's delicate inner organs will be majorly dificult for lee. Curse seal just makes things that much more complicated. I think lee is outclassed here. For the fight to be even we would need gai vs kimimaru IMO lol.