About Moria vs Kaidou, that was years ago.
I bet Kaidou would one-shot moria now if he can..and really, Moria is a wuss.
I totally agree with Blackhair on BB. I don't think that guy is smart, that guy is just a greedy and power-crazy opportunist.
He's more towards "stupid", nobody smart and logical will raid Impel Down with what, 4 members? I understand that during
that time it was the war, so maybe there will be a lack of manpower to deal with BB but that still doesn't change the fact that
him going in there like that was closer to suicide than success. Anyone calling him smart should rethink that stance.
On the other hand, I'm looking towards at Kaidou for being a smart and hard to deal with opponent. Maybe someone like crocodile.
Back then we came to conclusion that the equation must be build like this.
Is that suppose to be valid? I don't think that equation makes sense.. Wb was an exception.Quote:
The other question is, if there nakama got captured, will they go as far as WB did to retrieve their nakama?? We all know Luffy will and proved it!
1)after moria's defeat,some sailors who lost their shadow stated that moria used to keep up with kaido.and moria had already said that the reason of his defeat was his crew,that is far away from the comparison between roger and squardo.
2)Crocodile himself stated he could stomp mihawk as a bug,but actually crocodile is too arrogant,he thought he could kill everyone.I admit this,but your explanation lacks coherence.
3)Mihawk had the upper hand??? and where? we saw just an exchange of fire,where vista was smiling.neither of them injured each other.
jinbe's duties may be connected to the reverie of this year,perhaps the position he was talking about is the one to protect the king during the travel to the reverie.
As for the rest, Tonix was very clear.
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Seeing as BB himself cannot materialize like other logia DF users, luffy and buggy will be the perfect combination of DFs to collect. That way, BB cannot be shot or cut and thus having the advantage of what all (except BB at this stage) logia DF users have.
even the pirates of the new world allied with WB said the new world was like hell,and everyone knows it. surely they aren't referring to kaido,but to the simple fact that everything concerning that sea is dangerous. we saw the supernovas in trouble with the weather and with the geography as well. anyway,as doflamingo said,moria "has become" very weak,it means he was much stronger at one time. and kaido was probably a bit weaker,in their fight moria was a bit equal,but of course he lost. I wonder whether they fought more than once,as rivals,or moria just was defeated by kaido in their first meeting.
Guys Let Move this discussion to the Mega Convo Thread
@mattiaildivino : You were the one who said let's try not to interfere with "meaningless" posts about strength ranking. well actually it isn't Meaningless it's OFF-TOPIC ... and you still talk about it.
To Talk about their Strength there's The-Power-of-the-Shichibukai thread.
XD but I was referring to the details about speeches concerning moria and kaido and otehr fights we might see in future,I made just a post with the ranking
about the chapter,why did oda choose 2 name of roman gods and one of a greek god for the ancestral weapons? he should have used Neptune for the weapon,and Poseidon for the fishman King
Okay, but I think you're underestimating very much the strength of a younko. This is how weak Moriah is. He couldn't even keep up with Jimbei, yet you said he kept up with Kaido. Unbelievable! We lack information about their battle, but if you have any, please share with us.
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477. It's not totally new, he is just switching places with his own shadow.
I don't Moriah became weak, rather he stopped improving, probably cuz he's aging lol. If he stopped improving, others will perceive him as getting weaker and weaker while they're the one who improved their strength
No matter how strong Moria might have become i think he will never pose a threat to Luffy or to someone as Kaido ....i mean even if we don't know much about him i'm positive he's on a whole different than Moria , he's a Yankou for god's sake so no matter what i think Moria represents now only a fragment of the past and he should stay like that
The one i would totally like to see again in the NW is Perona .She gained me as a fan i guess 'cause she helped Zoro and i like the relationship they developed durin those 2y they were so cute back then on SA lol
3 ancient weapons
I don't recall seeing 12 too often, so maybe in eastern religion this number is not as prominent/relevant as it is in greek/roman myth and the old and new testament in judeo-christian faiths, where along with 3 and 7 it is the most common, so perhaps in those cultures numbers like 3, 4 and 7 are more common.
In relation to the subject at hand, this is probably the inspiration to such numbers, and oda didn't just feel like making 7. There are plenty of authors who develop organizations and societies with a specific number in mind, but it usually depends on the groups purpose. Often times 3 and 4 are small groups of great power who are like gods/lords/emperors, whereas 7, 12, and 13 are often larger groups that have their own legend. Shichibukai falls perfectly about that as the members consist of ex-pirates who by the common people and rookie pirates are legends told around the campfire like ghost stories. You can tell by how the shichibukai are discussed in East Blue how their reputation would make them seem like epic or legendary men, and with what little we know about the yonkou, the fact there's only 4 and they reign as emperors and kings (and queen, in the case of BM) leads one to thing they're legendary figures with godly strength, and crews of equal power and fame under the same banner. Every interaction we've had involving their names predicts this, read the reactions to the name whitebeard prior to the whole "yonkou" explanation. Every pirate, marine, and WG member that seemed to know his name feared him. You could even argue in the OP world white beards strength fits the reputation, and was probably even more godlike in his prime when he fought Roger.
I have some off topic predictions of where we might go from here in the story as well (post-FI and the start of NW), so if i have time i'll post these later and see if anyone is getting a similar vibe.